2nd Hakogaki translation please

[Kurikata]

I am so sorry not to be able to read them... Thank you for your help

[Brian]

Not easy. I only know one person who would not have too much trouble with that...
Hope he's around.

[SteveM]

Left side is (maybe)

 

廿年文月

20th year, July

 

Bottom is  囗実

 

Said with low confidence. I will be happy if I correctly read the left side. 

[Kurikata]

Thank you Steve ... As Brian mentioned it, it is not an easy one.....

[Curran]

Is the right side not simply "Hiro Ro Ya N (and maybe one more character)"

[Kurikata]

Dear Curran,

 

you potentially opened  a door to me. Looking at signature with Hiro + something  as a signature I discovered this kozuka signature (tamagawa Hiroyoshi) from the Met:

https://images.metmuseum.org/CRDImages/aa/original/LC-43_120_391-002.jpg

 

Therefore with a lot of imagination why not to see HIRO YOSHI as the name on the right of my box?

 

Please let me know your views.

[SteveM]

As Curren says, the writing on the box is looks like 囗ろやん囗, but I can't imagine what the first one character would be, so that the following ya-ro-n would make sense. Maybe knowing what the box holds would help? 

 

I would think the right side is the description, the left side the date, and the two on the bottom are perhaps the mei?

[Curran]

I see the first character as the kanji for 'Hiro' used by a number of late Edo fittings artists.

 

An example would be Uchikoshi Hirotoshi  or any of his many students:

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Uchikoshi_Hirotoshi_-_Kozuka_with_a_View_of_Enoshima_-_Walters_51884_-_Mark_A.jpg

[SteveM]

That hiro is 弘, which in grass script looks a bit different.

https://moji.tekkai.com/zoom/%E5%BC%98/page.html

 

I'm thinking the kanji on the box is something with gonben or koromo-hen, which both start off with that one strong brush stroke (almost a dot) on top, followed by a strong horizontal line before breaking down in to an abbreviated version of the following strokes.  

 

言

衣

 

Anyway, that is what I'm thinking. Waiting for the masters to come in and teach us all what this is about. 

[k morita]

Steve,

 

Yes,It's Hiro 弘

弘ちやんえ　(present) to Hiro-chan or Kō-chan or Hiroshi-chan.

("chan" is put after name of a child or close friends. Mainly, a child.)
　
真実  (from) Masami or Mami or Sanemi or etc,.　

[SteveM]

Wow - schooled again. Well done Morita-san and Curran. 

[Brian]

Steve,
Don't underestimate your efforts. I think even Morita-san would tell you that you have remarkable abilities in Japanese translations.
Once again, thank you Morita san for your valuable input.

[Kurikata]

Morita san's translation leaves me speechless. A great thank you to all of you for your efforts and your commitment in helping me!