ChuckJ Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 Hello Guys, What are these Menuki? I've seen these type before but I don't have a clue as to what they are. Chuck Quote
Ford Hallam Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 not stylised, these are in fact quite realistic. Goudrs were grown and when at a good size a poisonous seed was inserted in the neck of the gourd to 'kill it'. It became limp and 'deflated' as it began to wither, at which point it was manipulated into fanciful shapes, the poison removed and it allowed to recover. There are many such dried sake gourds from the Edo period in existence that were made this way. 5 Quote
Ken-Hawaii Posted January 30, 2020 Report Posted January 30, 2020 Interesting! Do you happen to know how the poisonous seed was inserted & removed while the gourd was still growing, Ford? Quote
Nobody Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 ......................... Goudrs were grown and when at a good size a poisonous seed was inserted in the neck of the gourd to 'kill it'. It became limp and 'deflated' as it began to wither, at which point it was manipulated into fanciful shapes, the poison removed and it allowed to recover. ................................................. Are you sure? I have never heard of that. Quote
Brian Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 (Mostly) Everything you want to know about Hyotan...http://www.thegourdreserve.com/Jumbo_Hyotan/HyotanIDChart.html 1 Quote
Ford Hallam Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 Moriyama San, it's what I was told by my teacher, and I'm sure you know how Sensei sometimes just make things up so who knows. I've worked on quite a few fancifully shaped Meiji period Hyotan sake tokkuri that were artificially formed, one actually had a knot formed in the neck. There was also the fashion of growing the gourds in a box that had carved panels inside so that the impression was pressed into the gourd's flesh. 3 Quote
Stephen Posted January 31, 2020 Report Posted January 31, 2020 like the square pumpkins we see in the fall here Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 1, 2020 Report Posted February 1, 2020 Try Nagafukube https://www.google.com/search?biw=1366&bih=625&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=x_o0XprsLuuOr7wPnPGswAE&q=%E9%95%B7%E7%93%A2&oq=%E9%95%B7%E7%93%A2&gs_l=img.3...186046.192450..193703...0.0..0.192.1068.7j3......0....1j2..gws-wiz-img.....0.RFO_PCuoRPE&ved=0ahUKEwja6-q8vq_nAhVrx4sBHZw4CxgQ4dUDCAc&uact=5 Quote
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