Repatina nakago

[Stephen]

Any one have photos of a professional finished nakago? One that would still paper?

[Ray Singer]

Sharing this as a example of where a mei has been removed and the sword remains a desirable piece. A professionally removed mei and repatinated nakago will allow and otherwise deserving sword of going Juyo or higher.

 

http://yakiba.com/Tanto_Nobukuni.htm

[Stephen]

Thanks Ray

[Ed]

That is the example I was going to post, but some young whipper-snapper beat me to it  . 

 

Hadn't realized until today while re-reading the listing, that I had not included a bit of background on the mei removal.  The tanto was originally signed Yasuyoshi (Sa), which at the time caused a good deal of excitement.  It was even published in the NTHK magazine. However, it failed to pass the US NTHK shinsa in 1989.  The then owner had the mei professionally removed, and re-submitted it to the NBTHK were it received the current attribution.

 

Personally, I wish it had been re-submitted at least once more before removing the mei, but c'est la vie.

[Ken-Hawaii]

Nice blade, & beautiful habaki!

[Ed]

Forgot about this one.  It was originally signed "Norishige"  .

 

http://yakiba.com/Tanto_Tanemitsu.htm

 

 

[Stephen]

All with mei removed. Any of over cleaned?

[Ed]

Over cleaned and papered?

[Stephen]

The patina scrubbed off then repatinated.

Papered or not.

[Ken-Hawaii]

Are repatinated nakago papered very often?

[Jean]

Provided they are submitted to shinsa and that the repatinating job has been done correctly, there is no reason why it should failed shinsa.

[Ken-Hawaii]

Thanks, Jean. I've not seen that done, & was wondering.

[Ed]

I don't have any which were over cleaned, then repatinated and papered.

 

In essence the ones previously posted had the patina scrubbed (filed) off when the mei was removed.  They were repatinated and papered, so yes it is possible and does happen.

[Jean]

When the nakago rust stops on a perfect horizontal line before the hamachi, it can be an indication that the nakago has been repatinated.

[Surfson]

I have done it three times.  Once was a blade with an attribution to both Sa and Masamune (OMG what were they thinking).  After removal it was papered by the NTHK NPO to Jumyo.  Another was signed Taira Nagamori.  After the mei was removed, the NTHK NPO papered it to Ishido Korekazu shodai.  The third one had a mei of Soshu Masamune and the NTHK NPO gave it an early generation Shimada - I don't recall right now, either Yoshisuke or Sukemune.  The last two are in Japan right now as I don't believe the NTHK NPO call on either one!