How To Tell Msern If Cast Or Real Tsuba?

[Daso]

Using this Tsuba which was on a junk blade, I believe its just a cast fake but what do i need to look at to confirm. Dents look like they were cast Thanks, Darius

[ggil]

From what I recall, the texture of the alloy is the giveaway (among a plethora of other evidence). A forged piece (or traditionally made) will have a finer structure without air pockets like this metal has. 

[christianmalterre]

you do destroy!!!!! your´s eyes - if anyhow looking longer onto such a garbage!

Very Sorry!

 

Christian

[Daso]

you do destroy!!!!! your´s eyes - if anyhow looking longer onto such a garbage!

Very Sorry!

 

Christian

I honestly find your approach At touch extreme. I am attempting to learn and is that not what one should feel instead of being ridiculed in very poor english. You are welcome to express your dissatisfaction with my query but i hope ypur bedside manner is better in your day job. I think you made your point clear and thank you for adding flavor to my simple question.

[Stephen]

Darius Darius Darrius, You have just interned  the NMB twilight zone  it takes years of membership to understand Chris, he means you no ill will, his brand of humor. Sophie Coppola made a movie about it in its title.

[Daso]

Then I apologize for my rant, i try to automatically throw myself on the block when i know I've been naughty in Nihonto (or junk nihonto) land. I try to listen and learn from all here. I know its ugly but didn't expect that

[Grey Doffin]

Hi Darius,

Not only the texture of the metal but the metal itself screams fake.  Doesn't look like anything a real tsuba would have been made of; looks like some type of pot metal.  The dents at the top and bottom of the nakago hitsu-ana shouldn't be of a one with the surrounding metal.  They would have been added after the tsuba was made to fit it to a sword and should be different somehow from their surround.  The work is crude, cast not carved, and the patina around the flowers looks applied, not naturally accumulated.

English isn't Christian's first language; may not be his second or third.  In his native (German I believe) I'm sure he comes across like a saint.  NMB works best if we all cut everybody else a bit of slack.

Cheers,  Grey

[kissakai]

Hi Darius

When you put up a question you take a chance

You have had a bucket of good advice over the laste few months so this is just one of those things

Christian is just stating a truism that bad work offends the eyes. I'm sure you already know this as you do have a good eye which is you greatest asset

A line I saw the other day seed apt to collecting

It is only junk that is expensive!!!!!!!!!

 

 

All the best

Grev IK

[Stephen]

 NMB works best if we all cut everybody else a bit of slack.
Cheers,  Grey

and with a grain of salt and bit of humor......and the tsuba in question, that would be a salt block...LOL

[christianmalterre]

German is my first language Grey  (you are right of course!)

i´m but pretty shure we both, plus others?- never had any problem in corresponding on the essential interests yet...not?...lol!

 

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Weiter so! sonst lernt Ihr nichts!

 

me !​

[ggil]

never-mind people.  Thanks NMB Admin Brian for the help!

[Daso]

All, thank you i have learned more and better for it. Best, Darius.