Daniel Posted November 4, 2012 Report Posted November 4, 2012 Hi all, I have finally found my field of collecting and that is ww2 Gendaito. I have recently bought two Gendaito of members of this board a Masamitsu of Joe(Swordguyjoe) and the Kiyokatsu of Josh Reid wich recently started the star stamp debate. I am happy with both and think they are worthy my newly started Gendai collection. As the previous thread come to focus about the star stamp I thought I would post a few photos of the sword that started it. Opinions are most welcome if you feel it´s crap by all means say so, but please focus on the sword not the stamp that discussion are already settled as far as I´m concerned. Thanks in advance Kind Regards Daniel Quote
Daniel Posted November 4, 2012 Author Report Posted November 4, 2012 last All photos by Josh Reid and ebay seller candelaria2007 thanks to both of you Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 The kiyokatsu was mine too! Great sword. Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 I was really bummed to see it go. Quote
george trotter Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 Looks like a nice example to start your gendaito collection with. What is the date? I have seen a number of RJT blades from Niigata and they also have the nagashi lines on the polish...nice touch. Have you started to research him yet? Regards, Quote
Daniel Posted November 5, 2012 Author Report Posted November 5, 2012 Thank you for your comments. Joe, funny how I seem to pick up your leftovers :-) George, it is dated One day in March 1943. I've tried to find some info of the smith but it doesn't appear to be much info of him. I read in a previous thread were Chris Bowen suggested he was a student of Sadakiyo. That's about all I know. Maybe I pick up the odd ones. Thanks again for your replies, I really appreciate it. Best Regards Daniel Quote
george trotter Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 I read in a previous thread were Chris Bowen suggested he was a student of Sadakiyo. That's about all I know. Daniel Hope you don't mind but I looked up a Japanese publication called "Nihon Gendaito Shoshi" (Short History of Japanese Gendaito) by UCHIYAMA Takashi (in Token Bijutsu April 1969 # 147) Chapter II p.9. The Niigata line goes ... Amata (Amada) Sadayoshi followed by a son Amata Akitsugu who trained together with another student Uemura Sadakiyo. This Sadakiyo had a son Uemura Sadayoshi who trained together with another student Sato Kiyokatsu (your guy - who may have also used the name Sadaaki?)...so, Kiyokatsu was a student of Sadakiyo as Chris said. You are right, there does not seem to be a lot of info on the students although as you say he was 2nd seat in 1941...so pretty good. Regards, Quote
k morita Posted November 5, 2012 Report Posted November 5, 2012 Hi,Daniel san, According to a [Nihon-to Meikan], Kiyokatsu's real name is Sato(family name) Masaru,working in Yuzawa city,Niigata prefecture during war period. When your sword was made, he was 29 years old. Quote
Daniel Posted November 5, 2012 Author Report Posted November 5, 2012 Amazing, Thank you very much. I really enjoy the blade myself. Best Daniel Quote
Daniel Posted April 1, 2014 Author Report Posted April 1, 2014 Hi After much thought I decided to send this sword for a polish. Even when I first saw the sword I thought it had potential and would look spectacular in a good fresh polish. When I read about Kunitaro san's services I decided to try his services. Today I handed the sword over to my local post office and it is now on it's way to Japan. We'll see when it returns to me if I made a good decision or not. I think it will be extremely interesting to see this star stamped Gendaito in polish that "started" the long thread about star stamps sometime ago. I also hope to learn a lot during this little adventure. If anyone is interested in seeing some pictures of the blade when it's finished I would be more than happy to post them when the sword returns. Best Regards Daniel Quote
Marius Posted April 1, 2014 Report Posted April 1, 2014 Looking forward to seeing pics. I am sure it will look great Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted April 1, 2014 Report Posted April 1, 2014 Hi Daniel, Its a little like a child waiting for christmas. im looking forward to see it. Quote
cabowen Posted April 2, 2014 Report Posted April 2, 2014 I think you will be thrilled....I too look forward to the after shots... Quote
Daniel Posted April 2, 2014 Author Report Posted April 2, 2014 Thank you for your positive feedback. Yes indeed I feel like a child the night before christmas. Only difference is this night will last a couple of months :-) Well as we say in Sweden, really a developed country problem Kind Regards Daniel Quote
kunitaro Posted May 17, 2014 Report Posted May 17, 2014 Daniel san's sword is rgistered and now it is in our workshop. It is very healthy good sword, This is the second time for our master polisher to examine the star stamp blade. He start to discover that there is many good swords in star stamp swords. It will be very beautiful after proper polish. 銃砲刀剣類登録証 (Juho Toke rui Torokusho) 登録記号番号 福岡県 第１０４XXX号 (register number) 刀 長さ：６６．４ｃｍ 反り：１．５ｃｍ 目くぎ穴 ２個 銘文 （表）（星刻印）越後住清勝作 （裏）昭和十八年三月日 福岡県教育委員会 (Fukuoka kyouiku iinkai) 平成弐拾六年五月拾五日交付 (Issuied 13th May 2014) Quote
cabowen Posted May 17, 2014 Report Posted May 17, 2014 He start to discover that there is many good swords in star stamp swords. Quote
Daniel Posted July 8, 2014 Author Report Posted July 8, 2014 Hi all The sword is now finished and will be heading back to Sweden in the next couple of days. When in hand and as soon as time permits I will post some pics of it. :-) Regards Daniel Quote
Daniel Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Posted September 1, 2014 Hi As promised here's some photos. I know the photos sucks, I will try taking better ones later but I think they can at least give you an idea of how it looks. So the blade is polished and a Shirasaya was made and also a full length tsunagi now keeping the koshirae together. Regards Daniel Quote
cabowen Posted September 1, 2014 Report Posted September 1, 2014 Looks nice! Any direct shots of the hada and hamon rather than the oblique angles? Quote
Brian Posted September 1, 2014 Report Posted September 1, 2014 Beautiful! And a good looking tsunagi too. Very nice job. Glad that the polisher was able to appreciate these Gendaito too. Brian Quote
Daniel Posted September 1, 2014 Author Report Posted September 1, 2014 Chris, Brian thank you for the kind words. I think it's time to buy that camera I'll try to take some better photos. Best Daniel Quote
SwordGuyJoe Posted September 1, 2014 Report Posted September 1, 2014 Daniel, Very nice! Looking forward to some close ups of the ji. Quote
bone Posted September 1, 2014 Report Posted September 1, 2014 Hey Joe! What are looking for in the Ji? And should I PM or just ask like this? Quote
cabowen Posted September 1, 2014 Report Posted September 1, 2014 Probably the same thing I am- the jigane and how it was brought out (or not?).... Quote
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