Really???

[Stephen]

maybe if it was mint...a big mabye....not me but a Military collector...but still. Its gone crazy!

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/rare-COPPER-HANDLE- ... 3a5febe4bf

[paulb]

Stephen,

I only ever owned one of these and traded it in years ago. At the time the going rate for one was between 110 and 150 UK pounds ($200). It seems incredible when you see TH blades by good koto and Shinto smiths going for less than they did in the 1990's these seem to have risen by an order of x10.

Is it me or have the values of art, aesthetic and value gone mad?

[Stephen]

Paul

 

if you ever read and watch on the WerMark...these new young Miltary collectors are going wild...run of the mil NCOs for half this price...yes maybe have gone mad.

[Brian]

Well...at least the seller is a member here. So Mark will know to put that money back into good Nihonto

 

Brian

[Stephen]

Sorry Mark did not check the seller, im not taking anything away from you, its the market...heck wish i had the two i had years ago...kinda like gold...how long to you set on it befor one sells.

[Brian]

These early copper handled ones are really rare. Lots of fakes on the market, so when the buyers see one that is genuine, they go mad for them. The usual NCO's are also fetching silly prices, but not as much as this.

In militaria, the quest to complete a collection or pick up a rare one overrides common logic. I also seriously collect AK bayonets (over 60 different ones so far) and one rare one can go for over $800. British No32 sniper scopes....over $2500 each. Fairbairn Sykes 2nd Pattern..over $1000. With militaria the sky is the limit I guess.

That's why we are still in a very undervalued hobby here, and are lucky to be able to pick up 500 year old swords for less than a WW2 sword. Shows how grafeful we should be.

 

Brian

[Mark]

No problem with the comments. I am happyto be the seller but realistically i can do better selling rare Japanese military swords than i can antique blades. I agree it is strange but that is the market :-)

[cabowen]

militaria is a much bigger market....

[W K Clifford]

what about this one:

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280574672702&ssPageName=ADME:B:WNA:US:1123

 

橫山加賀介祐永 in bad shape, is it worth this much?

[hybridfiat]

This is an exceptional price for a sword in this condition.

Someone knows something I dont! :?

[cabowen]

Quite long at 30"....If the signature is good, after polish, it should be worth at least 3, maybe 4 times the closing price.....A bit of a gamble....

[W K Clifford]

it does look like similar to this one:

 

http://kako.nipponto.co.jp/swords/JT164084.htm

 

the mei, the harmon, the hi, etc.

 

what do you say?

[cabowen]

Nice daisho.....

[Surfson]

Two late Bizen Sukenaga's listed. The kiku ichi mei didn't match the ebay sword, nor did the other which I could only find in the Bizen Taikan. I agree that somebody really took a stretch on this one.

[W K Clifford]

before i say anything perhaps i should clarify that i did NOT buy this sword. i am merely curious...

 

Two late Bizen Sukenaga's listed. The kiku ichi mei didn't match the ebay sword, nor did the other which I could only find in the Bizen Taikan. I agree that somebody really took a stretch on this one.

 

By "match" you mean the same kanji in the same order? Variations are highly possible. The ways, or the styles, the kanjis are written or carved do match, at least close examination is called for.

[Surfson]

I looked at at least ten examples, and the suke character was written very differently. On the other example, it was the naga that differed considerably.