G Bryant Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 I've been trying to get someone's attention, but all experts in Australia say it's probly a fake , or it must be a fake, I've argued ,pleaded and given all the facts I can find , but even the experts said probly a fake , but nobody has confirmed yes or no . what's your thoughts highly unlikely but I can't prove it a fake . taken out of its beautiful handle and shieth to be unrecognisable and travel from Tokyo to Australia. as a war trophy that's my theory .. thoughts from you guys much appreciated VID_20260619155310.mp4 Quote
Ray Singer Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 G Bryant, your sword is signed 虎徹 (Kotetsu). It would be more helpful if you could take better, clearer photos. Swordsmith information (create an account to access). https://nihontoclub.com/view/smiths/meisearch?type=All&mei_op=contains&mei=虎徹 Examples. https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=6de80325d8c97b9b&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS1136US1136&sxsrf=APpeQnsD-W631RT89SOJ9p08pR9QSnwb2g:1782318299769&udm=2&fbs=ABfTbFVyMZGZf1hfvX9uKjN_-G8c4u0nXx4bEIpwm1lnNH832VTJOOCxW_fyN-Q_ezyf8gI6tmCs2mGkqzilSWVScXUu-36F1xwJ6s2wRb7OWrvmXKhJLrQZNmI9gm2AYQW4Uizn2b8TkT7RybSEBZdtaCwnr8ep1FfDZpTyTkz03KmpKMoTvXnkTHHyQHvNfMh4ViFw0QP3ntipu8Gg32MSfCIb3zcfbg&q=長曽祢興里入道虎徹&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwiXmomJpaCVAxXEliYFHZAJNNQQtKgLegQIFxAB&biw=1536&bih=791&dpr=1.25 https://www.google.com/search?q="okisato+nyudō+kotetsu"&rlz=1C1ONGR_enUS1136US1136&oq="okisato+nyudō+kotetsu"&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOTIJCAEQIRgKGKABMgcIAhAhGKsCMgcIAxAhGKsCMgcIBBAhGKsCMgcIBRAhGI8CMgcIBhAhGI8C0gEHODI3ajBqN6gCALACAA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8 A togishi in Australia. https://touken-togishi.com/ WWII Army koshirae. https://web.archive.org/web/20250228085100/https://ohmura-study.net/900.html 4 Quote
G Bryant Posted June 24 Author Report Posted June 24 new information and help from this group has identified to be katabami kamon. changing the my research in another direction thanks all for help . still wondering if fake or real katana but nothing to do with lost Tokugawa swords .. my novice knowledge showing clearly thank you .G Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted June 24 Report Posted June 24 Well you can be safe in the knowledge that it's a real Japanese sword, whether or not it was actually made by the smith on the Nakago is a completely different matter. As one of the most faked smiths in history, the chances of it being authentic are perishingly small. 3 Quote
Ian B3HR2UH Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 You would need to post a picture showing the full tang and signature to get more information . I am certain that you will be told what others have previously told you namely that the signature is a fake one. 2 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 Remember that a blade can be fitted with almost any tsuba, having no intrinsic relationship, so they need to be researched independently. In your case the owner may or may not have deliberately chosen a tsuba with the simple katabami mon, but that choice would most likely be independent of a Kotetsu (or otherwise) blade. 3 Quote
eternal_newbie Posted June 25 Report Posted June 25 2 hours ago, PNSSHOGUN said: As one of the most faked smiths in history, the chances of it being authentic are perishingly small. Something to keep in mind here is that this smith is so often faked that he has his own rule of thumb among the collecting community, to wit: "For every ten Kotetsus you see on the market, eleven will be fakes." The people who reflexively reply that what you have is very likely fake aren't being elitist or downers; they're simply repeating a reliable piece of common wisdom in the field. 2 2 Quote
2devnul Posted June 26 Report Posted June 26 (edited) Yeah, even famous Kondo Isami was boasting about having a Kotetsu blade, but he had a Gimei PS. When I saw the topic I thought you found Honjo Masamune PS2. I love it! On 6/25/2026 at 4:28 AM, eternal_newbie said: "For every ten Kotetsus you see on the market, eleven will be fakes." Edited June 26 by 2devnul 1 Quote
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