Dealing with seller djcollection

[2devnul]

WARNING!

 

I strongly discourage to buy anything from @djcollection

Based on my personal experience what you see/read is not what you get. Flaws are hidden, no possibility for return or refunds. I recommend to stay away!

 

Please PM me if you want to know more details. 

[djcollection]

I am not going to let this kind of public accusation stand without a response.

 

Adam’s post is one-sided, exaggerated, and, in my view, defamatory. He bought a signed and dated traditionally forged wartime gendaitō with a special long mei and koshirae at a cheap price. He did not buy a freshly polished, flawless, high-end sword in premium antique koshirae.

That distinction matters.

 

He got a good deal for what the sword actually was, then later seemed to expect a perfect blade with high-quality koshirae as if he had paid top-market money. That is not realistic, and it is not fair to turn buyer’s regret or unrealistic expectations into a public attack on my reputation.

 

The complaint was mainly about condition points, including what was essentially a very small issue at the kissaki/tip. Even if present, that does not turn the sword into something misrepresented, and it certainly does not justify accusing me of hiding flaws or warning people not to deal with me.

 

 

I will be screenshotting the evidence and sending it to the group admin. I'm happy to provide anyone with the details and screenshots as well.

 

Adam needs to take responsibility for making serious public claims that damage another person’s reputation.

I am happy to deal with genuine concerns directly and respectfully, but I will not accept false, exaggerated, or defamatory accusations being posted publicly.

[djcollection]

1 hour ago, 2devnul said:

WARNING!

 

I strongly discourage to buy anything from @djcollection

Based on my personal experience what you see/read is not what you get. Flaws are hidden, no possibility for return or refunds. I recommend to stay away!

 

Please PM me if you want to know more details. 

@2devnul 

 

You have made serious claims here — that “what you see/read is not what you get,” that flaws are hidden, and that people should stay away from me. Those are not small comments. They directly attack my reputation as a collector and seller. 

 

I have already reported your post to the admin for defamation, and I have provided screenshots of our previous messages as evidence. I am happy for the admin to review the full context properly. Let the evidence speak for itself.

 

A signed, dated, traditionally forged wartime gendaitō with long mei,no forging flaws, and koshirae included has value beyond the fittings. At 1,650 euro, I believe you received a good deal, especially considering the original asking price was 1,920. The price was not based on premium fittings or fresh polish; it was based on the sword being a genuine signed gendaitō with character, workmanship, and a desirable dated inscription. The truth is that you bought a signed and dated traditionally forged wartime gendaitō with a special long mei and koshirae at a very reasonable price. It was never sold to you as a freshly polished, flawless, high-end blade, nor was the koshirae described as premium antique koshirae.

 

You received a good deal for what the sword actually was. Expecting a perfect blade with high-quality koshirae at that price point is unrealistic. Turning that into a public warning and suggesting I deliberately hide flaws is unfair, exaggerated, and damaging.

 

If you believe you have a genuine issue, deal with it properly and honestly with the full facts. But making broad public accusations without context is not acceptable, and you need to take responsibility for what you have posted.

[2devnul]

17 minutes ago, djcollection said:

false, exaggerated, or defamatory accusations

 

That is your point of view. You have your screenshots, I have your sword pictures and description VS what I have at hand (with my pictures). I tried to 'parle' with you on PMs, you said 'end of topic' I told you not for me. I proposed a fair solution (refund) you started to ignore me. 

 

4 minutes ago, djcollection said:

no forging flaws

You are again joking right? What about 2 Mune cracks? 

 

I stand my ground and again. I recommend to stay away from doing business with you! 

[2devnul]

14 minutes ago, djcollection said:

defamation

No it is not. It is a fact that I got something different from you than what you advertised. 

 

27 minutes ago, djcollection said:

a very small issue at the kissaki/tip

Huge chunk on Mune is missing. You call that small issue? 

 

15 minutes ago, djcollection said:

no forging flaws

Again, are you serious? What about these 2 Mune cracks? 

 

Also the rust on your flawless blade. You told me that it must catch rust during shipment, but per info from polisher it is to deep to be only 1,5 month (yes, that is how long it took to have the sword shipped) old. 

 

25 minutes ago, djcollection said:

nor was the koshirae described as premium antique koshirae

 

You wrote Iaito Koshirae. Whoever want to use this for Iaito would ask for suicide. It is a poorly assembled from different sword parts Frankenstein. I assumed that Iaito Koshirae means this has been made for this sword, not assembled by you with paper (yes, cut paper) extra Seppa ... Extra Mekugi-ana in Tsuka that was done poorly with Mekugi cut to fit just a bit, old Mekugi-ana was glued to cover it. Saya is to big, sword rattles like crazy in it. In other words s**t! Not what you stated "Iaito Koshirae". 

 

I will leave admin to decide what to do with this. I'm off for a weekend and ain't planning to be online till Monday. And to you @djcollection you didn't want to take responsibility for your sale, fine, but I will make sure your reputation is known. 

 

To close the topic before weekend. Everyone, it is word against word, you will do as you wish. 

Cheers!  

[LastSamurai]

Without myself having any bias into this, I would say that @2devnul has some serious evidence supporting his claim, while @djcollection has AI-generated descriptions and responses. That alone should mean something. What's realistic and what's not for a given price should depend on seller's description, not buyer's guessing. I do not agree about selling something and later saying: "you should've not expected much for this price", if every flaw was not deliberately disclosed in advance in the listing and/or in private messages. Just my 2 cents, nothing against @djcollection or anyone else here, for that matter.

That said, I had a sword by Amatsu Masakiyo before (I am still a bit sorry for letting it go) and it was a beast. The pictures in the other listing more or less summarize what Masakiyo stands for and it looks really nice, preserved and in good polish, even for a gendaito. If it was inside EU, I would've considered it, although I genuinely prefer gendaito in koshirae.

[PNSSHOGUN]

With that many sales listings you would hope for a gold membership to support the forum.....

[djcollection]

With reference to the issue now moved into this section, I will keep my response short and factual.

 

I have attached screenshots of the chat history between 2devnul and myself so members can see the actual communication and make up their own minds.

 

My position is simple: The sword was sold at a very reasonable price, with photos and information provided, and it was never represented as a flawless, freshly polished, high-end blade.

 

I respect the admin’s decision to move the discussion away from the sales post. I also believe both sides should be judged based on the actual facts, not one-sided comments.

 

I will let the screenshots and the full context speak for themselves.

[Hokke]

This seems fairly simple if someone can post a link to the original sale thread. 
 

Either the flaws pictured above were clearly stated in the original sales post or they were not….period.

 

This is a contract dispute fellas, either the description of the sword was accurate or it wasn’t, this has NOTHING to do with how anyone “felt”. 

[2devnul]

1 hour ago, Hokke said:

Either the flaws pictured above were clearly stated in the original sales post or they were not….period.

 

They were not. 

[Rawa]

I can't clearly take side here. But I as buyer demand only one thing from seller - exact dimensions.

I bought here from many of You guys, from many countries and I had claims only for measurements - and Yes couple cm shorter or nagasa measured from tip to tsuba is an obvious fault.

Kizu are easy to miss.

I would like to know If this rust spot is only at one side or is this already structural through entire blade.

I bought from Mason already, all was good.

maybe restoration of original offer would be helpful here? 

 

Marcin

[robinalexander]

Calabrese (Hokke) above, hit the nail on the head.

[djcollection]

 

Thank you Marcin. I appreciate your balanced comment, and I also appreciate you mentioning that you have bought from me before and had a positive experience.

 

I agree with you that exact measurements are important. The sword was measured and described as accurately as I could.

 

Regarding kizu, I agree that some small points can be easy to miss. That is exactly my point about the kissaki and mune area. I did not notice the issue when I held the blade in hand, and you see the photos appear to have been heavily enlarged (by how many times, I do not know) making the issue look far more dramatic than it appeared under normal viewing. In my view, the kizu has been zoomed in on and presented completely out of proportion. It feels like using a magnifier to focus on the smallest visible flaw, then presenting it as if it were a major defect. When the blade is viewed normally in hand, it does not appear anywhere near as serious as those enlarged close-up photos suggest. Attached are photos of the blade (exactly the same ones I used for the sales post).

 

As for the rust spot, I did not notice such a spot before shipment. The sword was carefully oiled before being sent, and it was in international transit for around a month. I cannot honestly say whether the spot developed during transit, but I can say clearly that I did not knowingly send a blade with an obvious rust issue.

 

I am happy for people to judge the full context together, including the original email exchange evidence and the photos of the blade.

 

 

 

3 hours ago, Rawa said:

I can't clearly take side here. But I as buyer demand only one thing from seller - exact dimensions.

I bought here from many of You guys, from many countries and I had claims only for measurements - and Yes couple cm shorter or nagasa measured from tip to tsuba is an obvious fault.

Kizu are easy to miss.

I would like to know If this rust spot is only at one side or is this already structural through entire blade.

I bought from Mason already, all was good.

maybe restoration of original offer would be helpful here? 

 

Marcin

 

[Hokke]

Please post the Original Sale Description