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Well....yes and no. After all, people often see what they WANT to see, regardless of evidence......hence 2+ BILLION christians and two BILLION muslims

Sounds good to me, glad thats cleared up now, thanks for the confirmation

It’s likely one of two reasons…. Genuinely believes they have the original or Purchased it as original and must sell as original in order not to lose money im not aware of anyone here having had the opportunity to actually hold it in hand, so I don’t know anyone can claim 100% that it’s a copy, however, the pictures don’t seem to be ambiguous…

Much nicer in person.....lots going on here

Im sure we'll get a picture of them in about......36 days

Im afraid the implications are far more serious if a site and its operators wish to maintain a respected or trusted status for ANY of their items. Luckily this is something VERY easy to remedy. Additional pictures and an appropriate explanation for the likeness to the numerous copies posted would go a long way to demonstrate both competence and honesty. As for the question of Mr Haynes status......someone here either has to know or knows someone who must know.......I cant imagine that if he passed it would not have been big news in the "community".

So we have a tsuba that is both listed AND not listed for sale, the authenticity of it being both confirmed AND questioned, in the possession of someone affiliated with an individual who may OR may not be alive?

Ok, so if you quoted him accurately, he is representing he has the original. Im curious, when you reached out to him, did you simply ask about his tsuba, or did you mention this thread and the number of referenced copies contained within it? Lastly, did he mention whether or not its for sale since his site lists both possibilities?

ummmmmmmmm ok........but what are you going to do for lunch and dinner?

Must have been pizza day at Bonhams

Yep, kinda went off on a tangent.....my bad But you are right, this never should have made it onto his page.......only proves how pernicious this problem is.

Agreed, unfortunately, I cant imagine so many selling it, and continuing to sell it if they werent actually selling it.

This is another super popular one that you will always find being sold concurrently.

There hasn't been a time in the past 8 months when there hasn't been at least two of these (among others) listed on eBay at the same time from different dealers, for different prices, using the same pictures.

Well thats a mixed message.....hopefully thats the case