A record price for a Type 95 Copper ?

[robinalexander]

This is certainly a very nice example of a late copper with matching numbers.

 

If I'm not mistaken, it could also be a record price?

[Rawa]

Record is 9k$ or at least it was sold "buy now" at ebay. Numbered 161 or sth similar.

[PNSSHOGUN]

Didn't these used to fetch far more than that not too long ago? 

[robinalexander]

I must be way out of touch.

 

My recollection was market price being around 2600 USD (4k AUD).

 

Clearly, living in the past.

 

 

[Rawa]

No you are not. There is a lot of crazy peps out there. Mentioned by me was sold 2 months ago. Paying price of tokuho Shigetsugu for any NCO still is crazy.

[Scogg]

These copper handles are demanding insane prices these days. 

The #161 copper that Marcin is referring to, was sold in a goodwill auction for $3001, and then put on eBay ~48 hours later for $9k.

It sold on eBay in early august for $8,999, plus delivery  ...

Craziness if you ask me... And I really want one too! 
-Sam

Edited September 22 by Scogg
$ in USD

[jawob]

What's the demand for these? Scarcity?

[Scogg]

8 minutes ago, jawob said:

What's the demand for these? Scarcity?

Yes, it's the scarcity, I would say. 

For reference, (these numbers are rough figures from my head, and not precise):
There were around ~200k Type 95 NCO gunto swords produced. Only around ~6600 were the pattern 1 copper handle version. 

And even fewer survived the conflict. Nobody knows exactly how many remain. 
So, these copper handle 95s are few and far between and therefore very desirable for militaria/sword collectors.

-Sam
 

[jawob]

Thanks for the info. You would think the tsuka would be gold wrapped at those prices

[Rawa]

33 minutes ago, Scogg said:

Yes, it's the scarcity, I would say. 

For reference, (these numbers are rough figures from my head, and not precise):
There were around ~200k Type 95 NCO gunto swords produced. Only around ~6600 were the pattern 1 copper handle version. 

And even fewer survived the conflict. Nobody knows exactly how many remain. 
So, these copper handle 95s are few and far between and therefore very desirable for militaria/sword collectors.

-Sam
 

Now same seller offers another copper 4064 kokura for 7500$. And I know I saw this example before [partial scabbard number]

I found source dunno how long ago it was sold. No locking mechanism.

[Scogg]

I've got that one listed too, and included the asking price in the notes. Probably matching saya, but missing that third digit: 40_4

For reference, you could get a very nice gendaito for these kinds of prices. And for 8k+, i'd probably pick a tokuho nihonto...

That being said, I only have about 100 copper handles recorded.
How many are out there? If the number of surviving coppers is in the hundreds or low thousands, then maybe the price is justified.
Hard to know, 
-Sam 

 

[Rawa]

I can't agree with it. I know it have historical value but compare price and quality. Quantity too. For example it's like comparison of Yasuhiro [500 blades made in shrine] and Copper NCO. Total madness.

[Bruce Pennington]

It’s like coming across a garage 1953 Corvette.  From a mechanical and engineering perspective they were crap. But it’s the first of the series. Everyone wants the first of any series.
 

I have mine!