WAKIZASHI

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[Bryce]

G'day Jacques,

I don't understand your question. You are asking me what characteristics they have in common, when they have so many that most people can't tell their blades apart? Is this a language thing? Is there going to be a punchline? Is this like "Two Gassan smiths walk into a bar .........".

 

Adam, that looks like a nice blade. It is a pity that Eric doesn't post some better photos of the hada and hamon.

Cheers,

Bryce

 

[Alex A]

And the landlord said "sorry, identical twins only"

[Bryce]

G'day Jacques,

The Gassan school is famous for its ayasugi hada. Sadayoshi and Sadakazu are credited with rediscovering it, but it was Sadakatsu who refined it to the beautiful uniformity we expect to see today. If we group Sadakazu and Sadakatsu together, I would argue that it isn't Ayasugi hada so much that unites them, but rather, tight, uniform, masame hada. Ayasugi hada never dominated Sadakazu's work, but it is the most common hada for Sadakatsu's Showa period work. Each of these smiths forged blades in all sorts of styles, with some dominating different periods of their working lives, but in general terms, I would describe their work as very controlled, with ko-nie and nioi. Hope this helps.

Cheers,

Bryce

[Bugyotsuji]

Probably I am a bit thick, but Jacques, could you please spell out your question? In the jumble of Gassan signatures above I can see many similarities, and many differences. Your question is heavily suggestive, and the pain is unbearable, but I am not sure what exactly you are asking… 

[Alex A]

With serious study over years, compiling info etc, especially on one particular subject then one can really get to become knowledgeable. As Brian eluded to earlier in this thread.

 

Over the years you see many particular swords turn up on various websites from certain smiths, wished id compiled more data.

 

Just look what Jussi has achieved and thats many smiths.

 

Don't think Bryce needs to justify his knowledge more than he has, I'm sure when it comes to a purchase he is more than adequate at knowing what he buys.

 

 

[Jacques]

16 minutes ago, Bugyotsuji said:

Probably I am a bit thick, but Jacques, could you please spell out your question? In the jumble of Gassan signatures above I can see many similarities, and many differences. Your question is heavily suggestive, and the pain is unbearable, but I am not sure what exactly you are asking… 

These two smiths have a particular way of engraving certain tagane (they are vertical). I ask which ones and why.

[Bugyotsuji]

Thank you Jacques! (Which two smiths?)

[Bryce]

G'day Jacques,

I am always happy to learn something, fire away, show us what you know.

Cheers,

Bryce

 

[Promo]

Reading the posts of Jacques in here reminds me quite a lot to a thread of mine, where he was very serious about naming the blade gimei a few timesand pointing out minimal mei differences he claimed ...

  

On 4/17/2019 at 9:25 AM, Jacques said:

Gimei at 99.99% chances 

 

Well, NBTHK papered it with TH  . So don't take his posts too serious if others give it chances, just go and find out if it papers.

[Alex A]

 

Knew it would happen sooner or later, give it a rest Jacques.

 

Legendary Moment in NMB history

 

Ps Congratulations Georg.

 

 

[Shugyosha]

There was the Kiyomaro too...

[Jacques]

3 hours ago, Promo said:

Reading the posts of Jacques in here reminds me quite a lot to a thread of mine, where he was very serious about naming the blade gimei a few timesand pointing out minimal mei differences he claimed ...

  

 

Well, NBTHK papered it with TH  . So don't take his posts too serious if others give it chances, just go and find out if it papers.

I recognized my mistake, and just because I made a mistake once doesn't mean I make mistakes every time. 

 

6 hours ago, Bugyotsuji said:

Thank you Jacques! (Which two smiths?)

Sadakazu (shodai) and Sadakatsu. That said, I wonder why I'm still here. I'm getting tired of reading all this nonsense, so I'm going to make myself scarce. Some people will be happy about that.

For the answer, those who are interested can just ask me via PM.

[Alex A]

Times moved on, books, references cant keep up.

 

Just how it is.

[Alex A]

PS, Jacques. If you taught what you know with respect instead of coming across as belittle folks, i wouldnt have found it so funny.

 

This thread just another example

 

You really need to work on that

 

With respect.

[Promo]

On 8/23/2025 at 6:38 PM, Jacques said:

I recognized my mistake, and just because I made a mistake once doesn't mean I make mistakes every time. 

That is fully correct and I bet you are right. Jacques, I do believe you have a great knowledge and are a benefit to this forum for participating. It is only sometimes for the wording that you are using that some of them appear snotty, as well as that it seems if you have made up your mind, there is about zero to change that. For ones like me who has - compared to you - only little knowledge it would be worth much more if you would put down your full arguments and explain with more words as why you think what. That would possibly save some pages in this thread too. So no offenses from my side, just the wish to be able to learn from you in an easier way.

[When Necessary]

Considering the emphasis that is now being put by @Jacques on a single chisel stroke, it might be pertinent to refer to @Markus's highly interesting article on comments and observations made by one of the fathers of modern sword study, Dr. Honma Junji.
 

https://markussesko.com/2021/06/08/honmas-questions-1/

 

Most specifically, this quote.