New videos added - Honjo Masamune

[Ray Singer]

Sharing a two-part video with a bit of information on the Honjo Masamune. Credit to Guido Schiller, Jim Kurrasch and Markus Sesko. 

 

Part I 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnA6ecejQx7/?igshid=OGQ2MjdiOTE=

 

Part II 

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CnA7iTKPI1-/?igshid=OGQ2MjdiOTE=

 

 

 

[waljamada]

Really enjoying these videos Ray.  Thanks for another one and a very interesting topic.

[Okan]

Dear Ray, can you please upload these to youtube as well? I don't use Instagram and I like to go back and forward  And thank you for these videos!

 

edit: Oh they are already on youtube!! Sorry about that.

 

[cju777]

For a second I was expecting Ray to post a video saying he finally found it!

 

Nice work, enjoying the lot of videos so far.

[Seth]

5 hours ago, cju777 said:

For a second I was expecting Ray to post a video saying he finally found it!

 

Nice work, enjoying the lot of videos so far.

 

This was my knee-jerk reaction as well when I saw this pop up haha. Can you imagine? Great videos Ray! I know most people prefer short videos but I would have no issue listening to you teach on longer videos. Looking forward to the next one!

[lonely panet]

great orator. very enjoyable,  nice a snappy presentation for those who dont get to sit down for long

[AlexCaz]

Hi Ray

I really enjoyed watching these videos! I am curious at the time stamp 3:20 in the video “part II” did you say the honjo masamune has a horimono? I may have misheard you since I thought there was no horimono on the blade based on the oshigata drawing.
Best Regards,

Alex

[vajo]

@AlexCaz as i know Ray he would not say something he didn't know. My hope is he had found it and now the sword is in Japan to find out it is authentic. Why i wrote this?

I hope to get invited for the party in Florida  

[AlexCaz]

@vajo I didn’t mean anything disrespect of course I just thought he said a word that sounded like “horimono” and was curious if there is another similar sounding word in Japanese with a different meaning. I’m trying to constantly expand my knowledge about the intricacies of nihonto.

[AlexCaz]

I’ve since learned the term he used was “futokoromono” which is a set of kozuka and kogai. I misheard Ray and thought he said horimono.

[vitamin]

Wait... the Honjo Masamuna was not that great actually?

 

Would that mean it could have been mistaken as nothing special and melted down?

 

Also wasn't there recently a display by Tokugawa family of some koshirae said to be of the HM, where they said only the blade was turned over to the police? Link:

 

https://tsumugu.yomiuri.co.jp/feature/桃山展「本庄正宗」の刀装初公開/

 

 

Like why would someone like that turn over both koshirae and blade, surely they knew the koshirae were also valuable?

[ROKUJURO]

On 6/12/2024 at 3:23 AM, vitamin said:

......Would that mean it could have been mistaken as nothing special and melted down?....

No, that would not happen as swords are never melted down. The worst thing that could happen to a sword is the OROSHIGANE furnace. But a KAMAKURA blade would not be mistaken, I think.

[vitamin]

On 6/13/2024 at 5:24 AM, ROKUJURO said:

No, that would not happen as swords are never melted down. The worst thing that could happen to a sword is the OROSHIGANE furnace. But a KAMAKURA blade would not be mistaken, I think.

I was under the impression all the swords taken by US army to the depot to be melted down were checked by experts, but if HM was not as nice a sword as it was supposed to be, maybe they didn't recognize it and it got melted down anyway. But definitely some swords were melted down.

[ROKUJURO]

Jonathan,

the term "melting" was technically not fitting in my opininon. You need 1.538°C to melt iron, and recycling steel that way is done on an industrial base in blast furnaces. I don't think that would happen in Japan.

But what do I know.... perhaps some swords indeed ended that way!