vfc Posted November 12, 2020 Report Posted November 12, 2020 I think i stuffed up again is it a gimme Quote
SteveM Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 Not really unusual, just slightly illegible due to corrosion. 兼茂 (Kaneshige, maybe). The reverse side is a date, but this is also badly corroded. ?年五月 (? year, May). Assume its wartime - sometime between 1940 - 1945. The date may have been deliberately erased in order to try to pass it off as something other than a wartime blade. Quote
vfc Posted November 13, 2020 Author Report Posted November 13, 2020 Thank you Steve I will try and do some research i am glad it is not a gimme. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 Vittirio, the condition of the NAKAGO looks to me as older than 20th century. No YASURI-ME visible, good patina, faint MEI. Faked MEI (GI-MEI, not gimme) are seen in all periods, so you cannot be sure in this respect. But my impression is that you have an older blade there, whatever the signature may be (KANEUJI? But Steve is the expert!). 2 Quote
vfc Posted November 13, 2020 Author Report Posted November 13, 2020 Thank's Jean. So it may be a hand made blade. Quote
ROKUJURO Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 Vittorio, we are only looking at pictures. I would like to recommend to have an expert have a look on the blade in hand. Quote
Shugyosha Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 Hi Vittorio, One reason for the darker patina on the tang may be the removal of the date which, as Steve has suggested, may be have been done to pass it off as an older blade. To me there's something about the colour that looks false to me (but again it might just be the photos or my eye). My feeling is that it may not be a natural patina but one put on there, perhaps chemically, to give it an older look and to cover up the new look of the bare metal where the date was taken off. Is there as stamp on the side with the signature (it would normally be above the mekugi ana) or anything to indicate one has been removed? Quote
SteveM Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 Kaneuji is a good call. Could be this guy http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/oshigata/kaneuji3.jpg Quote
vfc Posted November 13, 2020 Author Report Posted November 13, 2020 8 hours ago, Shugyosha said: Hi Vittorio, One reason for the darker patina on the tang may be the removal of the date which, as Steve has suggested, may be have been done to pass it off as an older blade. To me there's something about the colour that looks false to me (but again it might just be the photos or my eye). My feeling is that it may not be a natural patina but one put on there, perhaps chemically, to give it an older look and to cover up the new look of the bare metal where the date was taken off. Is there as stamp on the side with the signature (it would normally be above the mekugi ana) or anything to indicate one has been removed? Hi John there is no stamp to me it does not look like anything has been removed but then again i am only a amateur. Quote
vfc Posted November 13, 2020 Author Report Posted November 13, 2020 Thank's to you all for your help and support. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted November 13, 2020 Report Posted November 13, 2020 You can see date characters under the rust. It was all there but covered up by rust. Quote
Shugyosha Posted November 14, 2020 Report Posted November 14, 2020 Hi Vittorio, I'm very much an amateur too. I agree with Bruce that you can see the remains of the date under the rust and that it must have been the flat lighting in the other pictures that made the tang look odd to me. It's just natural rust. Can't see anything that suggests it had a stamp and I think Steve's find on the signature is probably a good one. Quote
vfc Posted November 14, 2020 Author Report Posted November 14, 2020 Thank's Bruce and John. I can now start to research Kaneuji Quote
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