jelda44 Posted October 25, 2020 Report Posted October 25, 2020 Hi friends, I would like to ask you for help with translating Mei and Saidan Mei on my katana. Thank you very much in advance for your help. Jiri Quote
Surfson Posted October 25, 2020 Report Posted October 25, 2020 Looks like Jiro Taro Naokatsu and a Tempo 11 date. 1 Quote
SteveM Posted October 25, 2020 Report Posted October 25, 2020 As Robert says, smith and date is 荘司次郎太郎直勝 Sōshi Jirō Tarō Naokatsu 天保十一年庚子八月日 Tempo 11 (year of rat) August 柳本越智敬隆所持 Owned by Yanagimoto Ochi Tadataka Cutting test inscription 同年十一月十三日於武州千住小塚原 両車土壇払山田五三郎様 Same year November 13th, at Kozukappara, Senjū, Bushū (Tōkyō) Two-body cut performed by Yamada Gosaburō 1 1 Quote
jelda44 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Report Posted October 26, 2020 Steve, thank you very much for the help perfect translation. Jiri Quote
Shugyosha Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 8 hours ago, SteveM said: As Robert says, smith and date is 荘司次郎太郎直勝 Sōshi Jirō Tarō Naokatsu 天保十一年庚子八月日 Tempo 11 (year of rat) August 柳本越智敬隆所持 Owned by Yanagimoto Ochi Tadataka Cutting test inscription 同年十一月十三日於武州千住小塚原 両車土壇払山田五三郎様 Same year November 13th, at Kozukappara, Senjū, Bushū (Tōkyō) Two-body cut performed by Yamada Gosaburō Hi Steve, Sorry to be picky but isn't that the ryou kuruma cut - so a single body cut through the hips and then dotan barai - into the earth mound below. 2 Quote
SteveM Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Yes, John, you are correct. Single body cut at the widest part of the hips. Quote
Shugyosha Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 On a historical or anatomical note, it's also the most difficult test cut as the blade has to pass through both hip bones and the base of the spine. So the blade is an excellent cutter. Quote
jelda44 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Report Posted October 26, 2020 Thank you Steve and John for the interesting clarification. So what is the exact reading of the characters of my saidan mei ?? Thank you Jiri Quote
Shugyosha Posted October 26, 2020 Report Posted October 26, 2020 Hi Jiri, As per Steve's translation apart from the bit about the two body cut which reads "Ryou kuruma dodan barai" (these characters: 両車土壇払). The "two wheels" cut (through the body at the hips) and entering the earth mound (below). This drawing illustrates the test cut (number 10): 3 Quote
jelda44 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Report Posted October 26, 2020 Thank you very much for your help. Jiri Quote
Shugyosha Posted October 27, 2020 Report Posted October 27, 2020 Credit to Steve. I lucked on to something I read recently. Quote
Jacques Posted October 27, 2020 Report Posted October 27, 2020 Unfortunately this sword seems gimei. 1 Quote
Bazza Posted October 27, 2020 Report Posted October 27, 2020 What does the blade say?? Photos?? BaZZa. Quote
jelda44 Posted October 28, 2020 Author Report Posted October 28, 2020 Sorry. I mistaken the photo. This gave her another Saidam Mei sword. I enclose the correct photo Naokatsu 😃 Jiri 4 Quote
Jacques Posted October 28, 2020 Report Posted October 28, 2020 4 hours ago, Jean said: Fantastic hada.... Why ? Quote
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