Stephen Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 anyone care to poll where this will go? http://cgi.ebay.com/Original-Japanese-S ... dZViewItem Quote
Brian Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 ..where this will go? Well..i would like to see it to go right here to my home :lol: Wow. Nice one. Who was the guy that said it read Bishu Osafune Sukesada Hmm....nice in polish and great condition. How on earth do militaria dealers end up with good stuff like this? Brian Quote
Brian Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 I haven't checked the mei yet to see if it is gimei, but I hope someone will do that and let us know if this one is as good as it seems? Will try and check it myself a bit later when I get a chance. Brian Quote
Ford Hallam Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 My opinion is that it is a gimei Gassan Sadakazu. I could post some images of mei from the Boston Museum Catalogue on the Gassan school if there's an interest. The saya looks like a cheap tourist piece too. The rest of the mounts look reasonable but I don't think they are exceptional. Quote
Brian Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 Moriyama san also pm'ed me his doubts and pointed here: http://www.nipponto.co.jp/swords/KT111197.htm Sadakazu was indeed meticulous with his mei, and I would have to agree with Ford and Moriyama san. I guess it was a long shot anyways to find a shoshin sleeper like this Nice polish still, and I would love to see the mei on the f/k. I revise my opinion in that it is gimei, but someone put some money into it with polish and fittings. Am sure we will have some other comparisson mei soon to verify. Can't say the NMB aren't on top of things Brian Quote
Stephen Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Posted May 24, 2008 Gimei huh...fig...can't we get that one great story anymore. Note to newbies..dont sell your books when you're hardup...the money gets spent, then you're right back where you were without the books ill drop the poll guess to 8000 as to where it ends. Quote
Ted Tenold Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 I'd have to agree that the mei is looks questionable. What bothers me also is the way the hi are cut and how far into the kissaki they extend. They look very awkward and bulbous, falling short of that harmonious elegance the Gassan are so meticulously skilled in creating. The tsuka looks new. The samegawa is bright white, the tsukaito is brand new, and the tsukamaki is poorly done. The menuki are also placed upside down. The fuchi is also made to accomodate a kozuka which isn't on the saya. The tenjogane has the ura facing depression, yet I see no images of a kozuka. The tsukashitaji also looks brand new. Lots of questions for that kind of money. Quote
pleasemx Posted May 24, 2008 Report Posted May 24, 2008 As I know, Japanese people don't like the number " four " (四) and often write it as 'two two' (二二) in the mei. Quote
Stephen Posted May 24, 2008 Author Report Posted May 24, 2008 Right you are X shi also means death....much like my post of late. Quote
Nobody Posted May 25, 2008 Report Posted May 25, 2008 As I know, Japanese people don't like the number " four " (四) and often write it as 'two two' (二二) in the mei. Yes, but that is not always true. Refer to a tanto of Sadakazu on the following page. http://www.e-sword.jp/sale/0810_3026syousai.htm Quote
Goldy Posted May 25, 2008 Report Posted May 25, 2008 Man that bo-hi sure looks wide to me... Is that what you would call an O-bo-hi? Gee, I sound like a poet, And I didn't even know it, Surely in my place, someone will put me... Sorry. Couldn't resist. Quote
Brian Posted May 25, 2008 Report Posted May 25, 2008 Right you are X shi also means death....much like my post of late. I hardly call possibly saving interested members a few $1000 that were unaware of the gimei a "post of death" :lol: :D It's a good service. Now how do we get a representative group of NMB members into those Sothebys and Christies auctions? Brian Quote
IanB Posted May 25, 2008 Report Posted May 25, 2008 All, This is very reminicent of a couple of swords that were sent from Japan for sale in Christies decades ago - lavish gold mounts, white jabara bindings, decorated saya and no papers. Note with this one there is only one seppa and that rather dubious. Love the F/K though. Ian Bottomley Quote
Ford Hallam Posted May 27, 2008 Report Posted May 27, 2008 it's over $10 000 now...who'd a thunk it Quote
Guido Posted May 27, 2008 Report Posted May 27, 2008 it's over $10 000 now...who'd a thunk it Substitute "hope" for "love" in this song: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rafEFSXVtuw Quote
Ford Hallam Posted May 27, 2008 Report Posted May 27, 2008 ouch! I can only wonder how they get the rubber bands on the singers testicles and I'd never have guessed that you were such a romantic, Guido Quote
Stephen Posted May 30, 2008 Author Report Posted May 30, 2008 someone had faith in it or just to much money laying around $22, 229 WINNING BID!!!! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... :IT&ih=020 Quote
huntershooter Posted May 30, 2008 Report Posted May 30, 2008 What is it about this mei that is "questionable", or "appears gimei"? I compared it to four references and fail to see what may be obvious. Would love to learn how the experts arrived at their conclusion. Quote
Ford Hallam Posted May 30, 2008 Report Posted May 30, 2008 Hi Todd, I get a sense that you feel the opinion expressed here may be out of line, this being challenged by the final selling price. With all things like this the final judgement comes down to the individual. The value of something is only maintained when we all agree to that "perceived" value. As such, my response to this result is that I don't agree with the apparent value expressed here. I wouldn't pay a 10th of that price for this particular item. This is my own opinion and is irrelevant to the overall imagining of the value of the sword. The point is; will this sword sustain this assessment in the future. I don't believe it can. *Edited by Admin* regards, Ford Quote
Walter Posted May 30, 2008 Report Posted May 30, 2008 I didn't bid on this sword (as Canadian resident) just because of 5% GST ... Quote
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