stephan_hiller Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 Hello, I have a mei of a naginata that I may want to acquire. The seller claims that the mei reads 'Kurume no ju Yoshitsugu' but it is in gyoshi and hard to read for me. I am only able to read 'Kurume X X X Minamoto Yoshi X'. Can anybody help with the correct may and if there has been a relation to Suishinshi Masahide. The seller also claims that this Yoshitsugu was a student of Suishinshi Masahide but I was not able to find antyhing in my reference books abouit a relationship. Thanks Stephan Quote
Brian Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 Just tried to enhance the contrast and size a bit.. Brian Quote
stephan_hiller Posted August 30, 2007 Author Report Posted August 30, 2007 Brian, many thanks. Stephan Quote
takakage Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 Hello, hawley p 863 yos902 (chikugo) kurume ju minamoto yoshitsugu, nobukuni group, student of masahide, rate 15 , itame, midare i will look the shin shinto taikan if the mei match....... Quote
stephan_hiller Posted August 30, 2007 Author Report Posted August 30, 2007 Patrick, Many thanks for your quick reply. I had checked in my own Hawley's yesterday evening but must have been blind. I am in the office and don't have my books at hand, but will see today evening. Stephan Quote
takakage Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 Stephan, i don't find any oshigata of this smith in the shin shinto nyumon and unable to find an oshigata in the shin shinto taikan, sorry patrick Quote
Ludolf Richter Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 There is an example to be found in ART AND THE SWORD The Bulletin of the Japanese Sword Society of the United States edited by Bruce Kowalski 1991-Volume Four page 20/21 The Mei is nearly identical with yours (genuine!) and has a dating:"A day in August of the 4th year of Bunka" (1807).According to the author,Kentaro Yoshikawa,"The Yoshitsugu who made this blade is a swordsmith of the Yoshimasa school and a student of Suishinshi Masahide,who moved from Chikuzen to Kuruma around Kyowa (1801)".Ludolf Quote
Curran Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 Ludolph- April Fool's Day joke? To me the reference mei and the photo signature look _exactly_ the same. Are the reference mei and photograph the same blade or is there some natural variation I am missing? Quote
remzy Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 I think Brian just copied the picture over, made it grayscale, upped the contrast, reduced its size a bit and reposted it so that it is easier to see the mei. But thats how i understood it anyways Remy Quote
Curran Posted August 30, 2007 Report Posted August 30, 2007 Dear Remy, Ah! Thank you for the explanation. I think I'll just go stand in the corner now, with my 'DUNCE' cap on. Quote
Ludolf Richter Posted August 31, 2007 Report Posted August 31, 2007 Here are the 2 Oshigata:yours and the one from Art and the Sword.Ludolf Quote
Brian Posted August 31, 2007 Report Posted August 31, 2007 Curran, It is probably me who needs the dunce cap for not explaining more clearly what I had done. I thought it easier to read the mei if the contrast was enhanced a bit and it fitted on the page without scrolling. Ludolf..nice work. I think those are clearly a great match, as good as you can ask for. Brian Quote
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