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@ Chris Yes, a beautiful collection you have there, thanks for sharing them with us. Brian

As of right now, yes, very happy with it. Thanks Brian

@ Brian, thanks. And i was not being offensive, i just think that not everything is junk on eBay, there are some swords to be found if a person looks good and hard. I can only think that people thought the sword would sell for much higher then it did, because of the papers and such, or the fact that it ended so late in the morning, that majority of people was still in bed. Dont know, but i do know its mine now, i won it, and when it shows up I will post a lot more detailed pics of it. thanks Brian

Umm, yes i did do some research on it, asked the seller many questions on it, searched the net for school info, and the fact that it was papered made it better for me. I like the fact that I prefer the wakizashi blades the most, the fact that it did not sell the first time, actually i dont understand why it would not. I got it for a really good price, had several members in here tell me in Pm, that it is a good sword for the price, and that it has papers, and in good polish makes it even better. Not my fault if no one saw what i saw in it, what attracted me to it was the quality of the blade, and shirasaya , and the pics shows the hada, and hamon which are beautiful to me. I beg to difference with you on the ebay comment, YES there is a lot of junk on there, but a if a person looks good, and hard, and reads the listing, some good quality blades can be found on eBay. You tell me what is wrong with it, what do you see that would keep you from paying 1200.00 for it, nothing wrong with the blade, in good polish, great hamon, and hada, shirasaya in beautiful condition, from a great war time era, from a known school, i will admit not the greatest of schools, but a well known school, not signed, but does have papers to prove the history of the blade. This is what one member in here said about the sword in PM ; " good example of a sword made towards the end of the koto period. It is a good functional Mino blade. Some would say it may be what is called a "bundle sword", a blade that was semi mass produced to equip soldiers during a period of great unrest. I cannot say whether this is the case and I doubt many on the board could identify one as such. So while possilby not an Art sword it is a good solid piece of traditionally made Nihonto history. " Brian

Looking for the web site now, and the only thing I think that make the blade any better would have been if it was signed, besides that, I think it's a great blade for the price, with the papers also. I seem to like the wakizashi's better for some reason. Brian

@ Jean I sent you some pics to your your Pm, but here are some pics for everyone to see. Brian

Yes, i love what I see so far in the blade, and the price to me was really great also. Brian

@ Jean I understand what you mean on people buying papers, but papers really dont matter to me, its a big plus that it has papers, if I see a sword I like, I buy it, I buy the sword , not the papers. I hope you understand what I mean. This would be my first with papers, and not needing anything, plus the price I think is really good. Brian

@ Paul If I paid just a little over 1200.00 for it, that would be a good price, or what ? Brian

There is no signature on the Nkago, but the NBTHK papers do say the following; Ganmaku School (Mino Den), Koto period(About 1521) Brian

Okay, I bought an another NIHONTO sword , It is from the Ganmaku School, Koto period (About 1521), it is a beautiful Shirasaya, and has Itame Hada, the Hamon is gunome midare, no signature on the blade, and is in old polish, but still looks really great. Plus it has NBTHK papers. I'm curious , how much more value does it add to the sword being papered already, and in full polish also. Brian

No offense taken, I would like to know who you all would advise that I can send the blade to have new furniture, and a shirasaya made for it, I would love to find original period fittings for it, doubt that would happen though. Please any and all suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Brian

@ Matt I have asked, and everyone says Fred Lohman. Thanks Brian

Yes, I will learn from it, and it is a very beautiful blade, and the school part I'm not concerned with at it is true Nihonto, and the best one I have in my collection right now. I'm contacting Fred Lohman today about having new furniture, and a shirasaya built for it also. Brian

I think other members in here would want to see the whole blade, not just the signature. Brian

The blade showed up today in the mail, and after a really good cleaning, and a nice coat of oil, the Hamon is showing , and is really beautiful. Brian

Yes, I know that, but I have never seen a signature that ends at the very tip like this one does. I got a message from the owner, and he did confirm both items were removed, that he bought it like that. Brian

@ Rich But the HOT STAMP section has been completely removed / cut off, as well as the arsenal stamp. Brian

Yes, I agree, as its a beautiful blade, and the value on it is diminished because of the HOT STAMP section looks like it was removed intentionally. I do like the fittings on it though. Brian

Paul I wished who ever originally owned that sword, would left the HOT STAMP, and the arsenal stamp on it, as I feel like part of the history of the sword has been removed, and besides I like the HOT STAMP on KaneZane swords. Brian

@ Paul He actually says in the listing ; " The sword is nice example of a Showa era smith. Very nice hand forged blade ". I was talking with another member in here in PM, and he was saying what I had suspected, I don't think the seller did those things I mentioned, I think he originally bought it like that. I was not trying to trash talk the sword, or the seller, sorry if it came across in that manner, as that was not my intentions. Brian

Okay, I was planning on doing something about this, and possibly buying it, but there was something off about it to me, so I asked an expert in PM , and he confirmed what I was thinking. I know I said no more non-Nihonto swords, but i do like the KaneZane swords. The hot stamp end section has been completely removed, as well as the military stamping also, and adding flashy mounts to it, as if someone is purposely trying to pass this off as an Nihonto, and it is an Showa blade. The MEI is correct, but it seems like someone has tried their best to conceal that it is an oil drenched, Showa blade. What do you think on this; http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 0965591974 Thanks Brian

I have a sword made by this smith also, here is a pic of my sword. Brian

Sorry, I had to be able to read this, and some really good reading. Thanks for posting it. Brian First paragraph ; These are the simplest since they contain only iron and carbon, other elements being present there in residual content vary according to raw materials and the method of production used. A carbon content equal to acquire these steels tempering hardness as high as those of alloy steels. They differ, however, the latter by a lower hardenability, which limits their use in parts of sections relatively narrow Their limited hardenability also leads to the use of energetic quenching means: pure water or salt water, and more rarely for small section parts, oil. In exchange, carbon steels are easier to anneal and are softer in the annealed and consequently has a machinability and cold forming ability much better. Second paragraph : hardness: The hardness of non-alloy tool steels for cold work is relatively high because it is given by the carbon content. However, deep hardening steels is very low because this property is given by the alloying elements that are present in very small quantities. For a given tool, there will be gifts just a few millimeters of surface film thickness of martensitic structure of a heart unprocessed lack of hardenability. tenacity: Carbon steels, after quenching in water, have a low hardening depth and a heart not hard. The toughness is partly a function of the large volume of untempered piece that enables it to withstand some shock loads. The tenacity of a carbon steel is also a function of grain size obtained after quenching. More grain will end it, the better the toughness. The evolution of grain size and hardness depth as a function of austenitizing temperature is much more dispersed in steels for general use and in extra-fine steel, because of differences in levels residual elements. Furthermore, the temperature range that is available for tempering is relatively narrow in steels for general use and because of the sensitivity of these steels to overheating phenomenon. Wear resistance: It is weak-but can be improved by increasing the carbon content (Minimum: 1%). This is one of the weakest characters of carbon steels, which may not be successfully improved by the addition of carbide-forming elements. Third, and last paragraph : Temper resistance: Hardness of 60 HRC obtained after water quenching from 790 ° C and tempered at 200 ° C decrease very quickly as soon as it exceeds the tempering temperatures of 300 ° C (50 HRC after an income of 2 h at 350 ° C). This reduction is significant regardless of the carbon content of steel. Deformation heat treatment: Distortion due to the change in specific volume of the hardened layer of a carbon steel varies in proportion to the volume tempered and lead to the expansion. These deformations are therefore even lower than the hardness depth will be smaller. During heat treatment, deformation most to fear are not those concerning the volume change, but change of form; these shape changes are often significant and lead, for example, arrows or curtains and that of especially since the mechanical properties of these steels heat is low. This is what gives carbon steels reputation deform easily to treatment. Shades EN ISO 4957 in May 2000, defines six shades. These grades correspond to existing nuances in the NFA 35-590 of December 1992. (For the record we will resume the match shades and field of use included in the NFA 35-590 December 1992) Field following NFA 35-590 (1992) Shades following NF EN ISO 4957 (2000) Shades following NF A 35-590 (1992) Steels for general purposes C45U C48E4U Carbon steel extra fine C70U C70E2U Carbon steel extra fine C80U C80E2U Carbon steel extra fine C90U C90E2U Carbon steel extra fine C105U C105E2U Fine carbon steels C120U C120E2U

I was watching some Youtube video's on sword polishing, and they had some great polishers on there, but none of them answered the question I asked, I heard them all say that polishing takes away metal , and needed to know if they polish a blade too much, would the hamon eventually disappear completely. I did look through some books, and did a Google on it, but could not get a good answer, and I knew that there would other collectors in here that would know the answer to my question. I was thinking that is why some great polishers will look a blade over for weeks before they attempt to polish it, would it take off too much metal, has it been polished too many times, that it could destroy the blade, does it have it fatal flaws, may be that is what they were looking at also. Brian