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Tk's a lot Piers again Sakai clan, i guess

"Well, you see, at least you had a laugh, and I calmed down, damn."

---> 6800 €

It gets better and better. I haven’t smiled so much for this long in a while. PLEASE do tell us what the NBTHK say….we are holding our breath!

here we go again

I’m only saying what I know, but thank you for the advice. Please don’t take this the wrong way — this isn’t an argument; I was just asking where I could verify the authenticity. I’ve sent it, and if they say the same as you, then everything will be different. Wishing everyone all the best, lots of health and happiness.

The certificate is Chinese.

The Fujiwara family (藤原氏, Fujiwara-shi) was one of the most powerful aristocratic families in Japanese history, especially during the Heian period (794–1185). They did not rule as emperors, but through political alliances — primarily by marrying their daughters to emperors — they held enormous influence over the Japanese court. Key facts about the Fujiwara clan: Founder: Fujiwara no Kamatari (614–669), who received the surname “Fujiwara” from Emperor Tenji. Peak of power: 9th and 10th centuries, when family members served as regents (sesshō and kampaku) for child or adult emperors. Most famous member: Fujiwara no Michinaga (966–1027), who successfully controlled the court without ever becoming emperor himself. Why are they important? Through the sekkan seiji system (regency government), the Fujiwara ruled "from behind the scenes." They had a major cultural impact — supporting the development of Japanese art, poetry, and architecture during the Heian period. Their decline in power began with the rise of samurai families such as the Taira and Minamoto.

Ken-katabami, = Katabami flower with ken blades. 剣片喰

You realize that Japanese swords have NEVER been made by layering? Never in the history of Japanese swords were there ever layers....never mind the fact that you can never, ever, work out how many times a sword was folded. That ONE single comment proves this is fake. Layering is a fake idea that people who know nothing about Nihonto use as a term because they do not know how these swords are made. The folding is used to remove impurities, and the steel is worked to remove these and incorporate the metal. You don't get layers, especially ones that can be measured. Hada is very, very different to layering. Oxford certainly does age tests, for their own research. They do not, and never have...done it for external items and then issue certificates. Call them yourself. Your certificates are fake, your item is fake. And there never was...ever....any "golden eel" Does not exist, never did. It's a term used for one of the life stages of a current (very much thriving) eel life stage. At this point someone needs to tell you to wake up!

This thread is better than anything on the telly at the moment. Definitely a troll. As far as I know there wasn’t a Japanese Emperor Fujiwara.

"Their university at Oxford, which revealed the age going back X and Y years—you’re saying that’s a lie? 🤣🤣🤣🙏🙏🙏 God help him, he doesn’t even know what he’s talking about anymore. All the archaeological sites from Roman times, the Stone Age, Ancient Greece, the Middle Ages—everyone knows they are verified right there. They conducted tests on the age of the steel, its flexibility, how many layers it was forged in, the parchment it was made of, the type of silk used—made from the golden eel, which hasn’t existed since the 12th century—seals from the Japanese Emperor Fujiwara! They confirmed all that and much more."

This reminds me of the other Russian sword $100,000,000 tachi or whatever thread from years ago that made its rounds that has been mentioned already. I found it funny while trying to read the poorly translated "Test Report" that the blade is both 600mm long and 3855mm long. I want to see a 3855mm long tachi. This would dwarf even the Masayoshi Odachi!

I think we have a troll….. It takes a few seconds to look at Oxford Archaeology and realise they are archaeologists ie they dig holes in the ground and research/appraise historic sites and buildings. They don’t issue these appraisal certificates. It’s as fake as the “sword”.

Be careful not to blindly trust the analysis on what appears to be a forged authenticity paper; and be aware of the possibility that an old piece of scrap metal could be repurposed. Nothing about this item is genuine, and I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news. -Sam

It would be nice if you could find it and send it to me. I'm not arguing at all, I'm just responding to comments about things I know. Thank you kindly."

I seem to remember waaaaay back...maybe 10+ years when something like this came up here...possibly the same item. Was being valued in the East Bloc for millions and was a clear fake. There was a group/syndicate behind it....some elaborate company using auction house to legitimize it. It was a total fake item. Wonder if it was the same. You can say what you like and argue as much as you want, and insult as much as you want, there is not ONE person on this entire forum or in Japan who will even give this 1 minute of their time. It is so far from reality that it is just absurd. Have to go find that other thread from way back, almost the exact same story and fake "certificates" on something that doesn't resemble any Japanese sword that ever existed. It's not even like there is plausible doubt here. It is so obvious as to be absurd.

My respects. I don't know who in the world could falsify the age of steel, who could fake rust – and that is examined using nuclear magnetic resonance. So much for your knowledge, dear Sam.

It's very clearly a fake Japanese sword, and there's absolutely no doubt in my mind. The fact that it's been disputed for ~10 years would imply that someone is not trying very hard. Here is a helpful link to spot fakes in the future: https://www.jssus.org/nkp/fake_japanese_swords.html I am in no way trying to be rude, although I can see how it might seem that way. The fact is, it does not require an expert to tell a pigeon from a falcon. -Sam

need help to identify this Mon many thank's

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Dear members, it is already July, so I would like to remind you of my TSUBA Forging Workshop. At this moment, I have still 2 workplaces left so in case you are interested, please sign up. This workshop is for NMB members only, so it might be a good opportunity to get into contact with others of our board. TSUBA forging workshop 2025.pdf

Brian, It has been too long since I pulled this set out. I have two of the English translation volumes, and thought I had two complete sets. I will revise what I have listed to show I have only the English explanations volume for sale. Thank you very much for your helpful input, which has perhaps saved me from foolishly splitting up my set!