estcrh Posted April 27, 2012 Report Posted April 27, 2012 This Ebay auction is over but looking at the price this "sword" sold for makes me wonder why some of the really nice reasonably priced swords being sold on this forum do not get snapped up more quickly. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 114wt_1176 Quote
Brian Posted April 27, 2012 Report Posted April 27, 2012 Oh FFS! I can't believe ppl bid on this piece of Chinese fake junk. Really? Even questions asking about blade length etc. I think that perhaps stupid ppl deserve to be conned. That's the only way I can justify it in my mind. How long before some buyer posts this here asking about their new Japanese sword purchase? "Militaria collectors...paying high prices for fake junk." (bumper sticker) Brian Quote
raaay Posted April 27, 2012 Report Posted April 27, 2012 Brian you beat me too it, 100% chinese fake ray Quote
Jimmy R Posted April 27, 2012 Report Posted April 27, 2012 Look at the bidders. Several of them have 30% of their activity with just this seller. It is how scammers hook unsuspecting prey by making something look like everyone wants it. The high number of bids gives it legitimacy in people's eyes. By the way, it is a Chinese fake Jim Quote
ROKUJURO Posted April 27, 2012 Report Posted April 27, 2012 ....... I can't believe ppl bid on this piece of Chinese fake junk. Really?....... The KATANA in the translation forum which I have been asking for help for (YOSHU no JU HIROMASA) was unpolished (HAMON not visible) and in WWII mounts. It was bought by an individual at a knife shop at € 13.800.--. At least it is Japanese, and the blade was made by a good smith....... I wonder if you could sell people an old car from the junk yard telling them it was a Ferrari. It seems to work with swords! Quote
Jiro49 Posted April 27, 2012 Report Posted April 27, 2012 THANK YOU!!!! I watched this auction and couldnt imagine why people where bidding on this? Just reinforces something I read(probably on this board)"Just because you want a Japanese sword doesnt mean you can afford one"... WOW Quote
sanjuro Posted April 27, 2012 Report Posted April 27, 2012 Looking at this from the other side as it were, it seems to me that given the preponderance of nihonto fakes and rubbish on ebay these days, that ebay has become a poor commercial choice as a place to sell genuine nihonto or tosogu. I look at ebay occasionally and usually give up in disgust because of the fakes and junk that predominates almost to the exclusion of the real article. Why a beginner would want to go there is entirely beyond me. Quote
Jean Posted April 28, 2012 Report Posted April 28, 2012 Why a beginner would want to go there is entirely beyond me Thousand of reasons, Keith, they know better than seasoned collectors, they think they can find the Century deal, thin wallet .... and above all, they have not burnt their fingers yet :D Quote
sanjuro Posted April 28, 2012 Report Posted April 28, 2012 Jean. It seems to me that these are also equally excellent reasons to stay away from ebay :D Not that any of the beginners would see it that way of course. If they can't afford it and don't have a clue what they are buying, then why the hell are they buying anything (apart from books) at all????????? This question excludes of course the "I gotta have one", instant gratification aspect of the newbie syndrome. A syndrome that the makers of fakes and reproductions are unfortunately only too aware of. Which brings to mind a line from the Magnificent Seven. 'If God hadnt intended them to be shorn, He wouldn't have made them sheep". Quote
Klop Posted April 28, 2012 Report Posted April 28, 2012 Knowing full well it was probably useless, I asked this seller during the auction how they managed to present this thing as original 1850-1900 when it is a chinese copy supposed to look like WW2. As far as I know that was somewhat later... Provided them with a link to images of the real thing to see the huge differences. I was very surprised they even answered, and said they would "look into it". But strangely the didn't bother to post my message in the auction Maybe it didn't really sell -highest bidder one of their family- and we'll see it coming around again soon. EricK. Quote
Kai-Gunto Posted April 29, 2012 Report Posted April 29, 2012 Easy too spot. I wrote too this seller ,about his Denix fantasy sword. He didnt speak nice too me. He told me I was so dumb ,contacting people when I didnt have a single clue about original items. I had only bourght fakes He saw the Ogawa Kanekuni in my feedback :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I will never deal with this guy http://www.ebay.com/itm/SCARCE-RUSSO-JA ... _500wt_922 Quote
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