Signed Old Kake- Translation help

[Curran]

I've had this kake for quite some time. It is an old old one out of a light wood. I belatedly remembered it had writing on the bottom finishing with 'Saku kore" (the saku kore are cut off the bottom of photo, was too long for the scanner).

 

Can anyone give me a decent read on it? it is a nice old kake, but the writing probably means "Property of Watanabe's Bathhouse, made by first son Watanabe". (just joking)

 

Seriously.... Beyond my ability to read it. Anyone able to see it well enough, thank you in advance for a translation.

 

Curran

[reinhard]

Hi Curran,

 

After a quick look the column top right is a date:

 

Ho-Reki yon'nen (Horeki era 4th year) equivalent of 1754 AD.

 

The column on the left continues: "... a day in sixth month" and probably ends with the name of the maker, who created this (kake), but this is beyond me without doing any further research. This might be of some help to you anyway.

 

reinhard

[Curran]

Reinhard,

 

Thank you for this information. That date would make the kake older than I had estimated.

I appreciate your help.

[outlier48]

Reinhard,

 

Thank you for this information. That date would make the kake older than I had estimated.

I appreciate your help.

 

Curran, anything else about the kake that might help confirm the approximate age? No reason to doubt it; just curious since you have it "in hand".

 

Charlie Brashear

[cabowen]

Hi Curran,

 

After a quick look the column top right is a date:

 

Ho-Reki yon'nen (Horeki era 4th year) equivalent of 1754 AD.

 

The column on the left continues with: "... a day in sixth month" and probably ends with the name of the maker, who created this (kake), but this is beyond me without doing any further research. This might be of some help to you anyway.

 

reinhard

 

 

宝暦？？？

 

I could be wrong but I don't see "ho" 宝....more like "kan" 寛 but there is no Kanreki nengo as far as I know...

[Nobody]

宝暦？？？

 

I could be wrong but I don't see "ho" 宝....more like "kan" 寛 but there is no Kanreki nengo as far as I know...

寶暦 - Horeki

[cabowen]

宝暦？？？

 

I could be wrong but I don't see "ho" 宝....more like "kan" 寛 but there is no Kanreki nengo as far as I know...

寶暦 - Horeki

 

 

Ah, ok, thank you.

 

Meikan writes this 宝暦 so I was looking for 宝....

[Curran]

Charlie-

 

Short of trying to carbon date it, nothing comes to mind. When I picked it up at auction, it was because I liked the simplicity and the deep patina of the wood. Lots of wear on it that has settled in without being damage. Seemed a bit older than the two late Edo tansu we have in the house, but I wasn't willing to go past 1825-1850 in dating it. Just told myself 1850ish.

 

Signature wasn't shown or mentioned when I purchased it, and I'd forgotten about it.

From my point of view; just curious to know what I can about it, enjoy it, and keep good care of it.

[outlier48]

Charlie-

 

Short of trying to carbon date it, nothing comes to mind.

 

Great response! I'm not sure what there might have been that would help validate the time frame. Anyway - great looking and I would love to have one like it. Congrats!

 

Charlie Brashear

[reinhard]

Congratulations Curran,

 

This kake seems to be a very rare and special object. Take good care of it (and of yourself).

 

reinhard

[k morita]

Hi,

 

Please point out when an English translation is wrong.

[Curran]

Reinhard,

 

Thank you for taking the lead on this. I should have made more of an effort to realize it was a date that I was starting with.

 

Morita-san,

 

Thank you for explaining to us. I would not have been able to translate this. I will try and see if I can post a better image to see if the location name can be deciphered.