drb 1643 Posted December 20, 2025 Report Posted December 20, 2025 I think it’s Meiji December 1st but I can’t figure out the year. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks again, Tom 1 Quote
mecox Posted December 20, 2025 Report Posted December 20, 2025 Tom , date Meiji 26 year 12 month 1st day. 1 December 1893. Less common 20 is "niju" 廿 stamps of "O" and "331" 1 1 1 Quote
drb 1643 Posted December 20, 2025 Author Report Posted December 20, 2025 Thanks very much Mal. It was the niju that I couldn’t recognize. I sincerely appreciate your help. Tom 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 21, 2025 Report Posted December 21, 2025 Tom, is this in army fittings? Why would there be stamped numbers on a blade from the 1800s? 1 Quote
PNSSHOGUN Posted December 21, 2025 Report Posted December 21, 2025 Swords by Kanemasa (Baron Murata Tsuneyoshi's Tosho name) can sometimes be found with stamped numbers from this period. 2 Quote
mecox Posted December 21, 2025 Report Posted December 21, 2025 @drb 1643 Tom, yes be interested to know the smith and see mei and mounts. Quote
drb 1643 Posted December 21, 2025 Author Report Posted December 21, 2025 Yes, it’s a Kanemasa. If I get a chance I’ll take and post some pictures later today. Thanks guys, Tom 3 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 21, 2025 Report Posted December 21, 2025 Oh! Yes, I have 8 Kanemasa blades with numbers from 1889 to 1893. Mostly Murata-to in kyugunto fittings. I had this one in the chart, but didn't have photos for some reason. The larger number is a "5" 5 331 1 Quote
drb 1643 Posted December 21, 2025 Author Report Posted December 21, 2025 Ok here’s some crappy pictures of the koshirae, blade and Mei. 3 1 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 22, 2025 Report Posted December 22, 2025 Excellent, thanks, Tom! Quote
mecox Posted December 22, 2025 Report Posted December 22, 2025 Tom, this is rather interesting due to the timeframe. Your mei is: Muratato Kanemasa 村田刀 兼正 Sesko lists: MURATA (村田) → TSUNEYOSHI (経芳), Meiji (明治, 1868-1912), Tōkyō. TSUNEYOSHI (経芳), Meiji (明治, 1868-1912), Tōkyō – “Murata Tsuneyoshi” (村田経芳), real name Murata Tsuneyoshi (村田経芳), he was born on the tenth day of the sixth month Tenpō nine (天保, 1838) as son of the Satsuma-samurai Murata Ransai Tsunenori (村田蘭斎経徳), he was the best marksman of the fief and fought among others also in the Boshin War (1868/69), 1871 he was as Imperial bodyguard sent to Tōkyō and was later promoted to a infantry captain, in 1875 he was sent to France and to other European states to improve Japanese firearms which resulted in the promotion to a major and the post of instructor at the Toyama Military Academy (陸軍戸山学校), 1880 he was involved in the development of the first Japanese-designed rifle, after that he was made head of the imperial artillery weapons factory and became a member of the Japanese Upper House, in 1890 he was promoted to the rank of a major general and six years later – in 1896 – he was elevated to the rank of a baron due to his merits in the Boshin War and the Satsuma Rebellion in 1877, besides of that, he was also active as swordsmith and the army produced the Murata-tō (村田刀) swords named after him, for the latter, not only tamahagane but also western steel was processed and they were widely used during the Sino-Japanese and the Russo-Japanese War from 1894-95 and 1904-05 respectively, he died on February 9th 1910 of a lung disease. KANEMASA (兼正), Shōwa (昭和, 1926-1989), Tōkyō – “Shōjū Kanemasa” (小銃兼正), “Kanemasa” (兼正), real name Murata Tsuneyoshi (村田経芳), he worked for the Akabane Arsenal (赤羽造兵廠) 2 1 2 Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 22, 2025 Report Posted December 22, 2025 29 minutes ago, mecox said: Akabane Arsenal (赤羽造兵廠) Sheesh! The story grows. So, what/where was the Akabane Arsenal? Online searches are all focused on the post-war confiscation of swords. I cannot find anything on the Akabane Arsenal of the 1800s. @Kiipu @mecox Quote
mecox Posted December 22, 2025 Report Posted December 22, 2025 Bruce, some background Tokyo First Army Arsenal Jujo Factory Tokyo Daiichi Army Arsenal - Wikipedia 6: Development as a "military capital" and after ~ Oji Takinogawa | Konomachi Archives | If you want to buy or sell real estate, Sumitomo Mitsui Trust Real Estate "Army Ordnance Supply Depot Ruins, Inatsuke Shooting Range Ruins" Walking around the battle sites of Nishigaoka, Kita-ku 1 Quote
mecox Posted December 22, 2025 Report Posted December 22, 2025 Example sword: Yahoo!オークション - 村田刀 小銃兼正銘 長さ70cm 小烏丸造り 明治24... Quote
mecox Posted December 22, 2025 Report Posted December 22, 2025 @Bruce Pennington from Chris Bowen "Tokyo Kindai Tosho" (1867-1945) lists: XIII. Tokyo Dai Ichi Rikugun Zoheisho (東京第一陸軍造兵廠) These smiths made swords at the Imperial Army's arsenal factory in Akabane, Tokyo (1943-45). These swords are usually inscribed 'Tokyo Dai Ichi Rikugun Zoheisho'. Others may have also worked here on a part-time basis. 1. Nobutaka (宣威) 2. Kanemasa (兼正) 3. Katsunobu (勝信) 4. Morikuni (守国) 1 Quote
drb 1643 Posted December 22, 2025 Author Report Posted December 22, 2025 Thanks very much Mal, this is great information! Tom Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted December 22, 2025 Report Posted December 22, 2025 Thanks Mal. So, it became the Tokyo 1st Army Arsenal after 1940, if I read it right. 1 Quote
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