2devnul Posted April 28 Report Share Posted April 28 Hello, My friend has an interesting Wakizashi which we are trying to identify. From Sayagaki we understand that this sword was a gift. Can someone please provide exact translation? Sword itself is a mystery, patina on Nakago might suggest early Edo or maybe even Koto blade. However, it looks like it was 'cleaned' a bit. Maybe someone was looking for Mei (sword is Mumei)? Any comments or suggestions are appreciated. I will try to get different/better pictures. Please share any insights, thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco D Posted April 28 Report Share Posted April 28 Could we please see the boshi and area of the hamachi? Thank you. Regards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2devnul Posted April 28 Author Report Share Posted April 28 1 hour ago, Franco D said: Could we please see the boshi and area of the hamachi? Of course, thanks for the help. I hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco D Posted April 28 Report Share Posted April 28 Shinto is probably the correct time frame. Regards 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2devnul Posted April 28 Author Report Share Posted April 28 1 hour ago, Franco D said: Shinto is probably the correct time frame. Regards Thank you for your opinion. My guess is also Shinto, although my friend thinks that patina on Nakago is older. Do you know maybe what exactly is written on Sayagaki? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROKUJURO Posted April 28 Report Share Posted April 28 Looking at crude YASURI-ME, drilled, clean MEKUGI-ANA, (artificial ?) patina on NAKAGO, it is perhaps modern. SAYAGAKI: HEISEI 14 ? NAKAGO photos are upside-down. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 Shinto, Takanoha Yasurime and Hamon suggest Mino influence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco D Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 9 hours ago, 2devnul said: My guess is also Shinto, although my friend thinks that patina on Nakago is older. Do you know maybe what exactly is written on Sayagaki? Well then, the patina would make the nakago older than the rest of the sword. Unfortunately it doesn't work that way. Sorry, no. You might try asking in the translation forum for a translation of the sayagaki. Regards 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 I can read it, but I'm not 100% sure what it means. Jean has the date above correct, Heisei 14, and it's April 15. 授与 (Juyo) is an awarded gift from above, someone senior to the recipient. Then it says 一彦殿, (Kazuhiko Dono, i.e. from? the esteemed Hazuhiko). 鬼種夫 (Kishuo?) seems to be the signature of the writer, but is it an Anime creature's name, 'husband of the demon'??? 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques D. Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 Mino, probably sue koto Takanoha yasurime were not used in Shinto era. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2devnul Posted April 29 Author Report Share Posted April 29 Thank you very much gentlemen for your help. My personal feeling was also Mino related blade. That is based on the attribution. About patina and 'cleaning' of it, who knows... I will ask for Sayagaki in translation section of the forum. Cheers! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bugyotsuji Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 See the translation above, Adam. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 6 hours ago, Jacques D. said: Mino, probably sue koto Takanoha yasurime were not used in Shinto era. These must be optical illusions? https://www.aoijapan...eki-sanami-kanetaka/ https://atarn.mandar...katana-fine-koshirae https://www.bonhams.com/auction/21861/lot/199/a-shinto-katana-with-koshira-e-by-fujiwara-soei-18th-century/ https://www.samuraimuseum.jp/shop/product/antique-Japanese-sword-katana-signed-by-kanetaka-nbthk-tokubetsu-hozon-certificate/ 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2devnul Posted April 29 Author Report Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Bugyotsuji said: See the translation above, Adam. My apologize, I missed that, thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franco D Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 Thinking aloud. This sword could be pushing early Shinto based upon shape. Perhaps, even Momoyama. Earlier, hmm. Boshi, more Shinto-ish. Do we see hints of Yakidashi on the ura? Polish, color of jitetsu, sure looks Shinto-ish. Kantei based upon images is always a risk. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacques D. Posted April 29 Report Share Posted April 29 4 hours ago, PNSSHOGUN said: These must be optical illusions? https://www.aoijapan...eki-sanami-kanetaka/ https://atarn.mandar...katana-fine-koshirae https://www.bonhams.com/auction/21861/lot/199/a-shinto-katana-with-koshira-e-by-fujiwara-soei-18th-century/ https://www.samuraimuseum.jp/shop/product/antique-Japanese-sword-katana-signed-by-kanetaka-nbthk-tokubetsu-hozon-certificate/ Okay, takanoha yasurime may have been used in early Edo, but it's rare even in Mino, and two of your references are unreliable. Quote Judging from the NBTHK’s appraisal that says this blade was made during the Shinto era Origami doesn't say that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rivkin Posted April 30 Report Share Posted April 30 Feels like shinto waki circa 1650. Can be Owari Seki, lower class smith. Nakago has been altered - cleaned or something. Maybe yasurime was redone. Not too much of an effect on price etc.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2devnul Posted May 6 Author Report Share Posted May 6 Hello, There is an opinion of one collector/expert who examined the sword personally, that this could be Muromachi Kanemoto. What do you think? Is it possible? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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