Edward Mahle Posted August 26, 2021 Report Posted August 26, 2021 Hello members I need some help trying to make since of this judgement paper. Quote
Bencld Posted August 26, 2021 Report Posted August 26, 2021 Second row from left looks like gassan sadyoshi ! 1 Quote
SteveM Posted August 27, 2021 Report Posted August 27, 2021 Looks like the text of the description says its Gassan Sadaharu (月山貞晴). The second column from the left indicates he is of the Sadayoshi group. 1 Quote
Edward Mahle Posted August 27, 2021 Author Report Posted August 27, 2021 8 minutes ago, SteveM said: Looks like the text of the description says its Gassan Sadaharu (月山貞晴). The second column from the left indicates he is of the Sadayoshi group. Have you ever heard of this smith and or group?. Quote
Edward Mahle Posted August 27, 2021 Author Report Posted August 27, 2021 This is the picture of the back. Quote
SteveM Posted August 27, 2021 Report Posted August 27, 2021 Yes, the Gassan group is a well-known line of swordsmiths. I don't know anything about this particular smith. The authentication paper is not from the well-respected NBTHK or NTHK. The paper you have is issued by a group that is somewhat mysterious, and they seem to be connected with a dealer in Osaka. 1 Quote
Edward Mahle Posted August 27, 2021 Author Report Posted August 27, 2021 9 minutes ago, SteveM said: Yes, the Gassan group is a well-known line of swordsmiths. I don't know anything about this particular smith. The authentication paper is not from the well-respected NBTHK or NTHK. The paper you have is issued by a group that is somewhat mysterious, and they seem to be connected with a dealer in Osaka Thank you for the info much appreciated Steve. Quote
Edward Mahle Posted August 27, 2021 Author Report Posted August 27, 2021 I also have the registration card if I'm mistaken registration cards will have some info on the sword as well?. Quote
Edward Mahle Posted August 27, 2021 Author Report Posted August 27, 2021 I just wanna say thanks again you guys for helping me translate some paperwork. Also taking the time out your day to reply its extremely helpful and it means alot to me. Quote
Brian Posted August 27, 2021 Report Posted August 27, 2021 Registration card basically says what you can see. Dimensions and what is on the tang. It verifies nothing. Original registration card outside of Japan usually means illegally exported sword. 1 Quote
Edward Mahle Posted August 27, 2021 Author Report Posted August 27, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brian said: Registration card basically says what you can see. Dimensions and what is on the tang. It verifies nothing. Original registration card outside of Japan usually means illegally exported sword. Thank you for the response Brain, I don't have the original I just used the photo of the original haha. So like you were saying it just has the dimensions and physical aspects of the blade not when it was made or who made it. Quote
SteveM Posted August 27, 2021 Report Posted August 27, 2021 That's right, registration cards only describe the piece of metal (how long, how many holes, any inscription, etc.). The people doing to the registration don't make any judgment on the maker, or the authenticity of the name, or the quality. The only thing they judge is: is the sword in front of me eligible to be registered (or is it, for example, a replica, a toy, a factory-made import, etc...? 1 Quote
Surfson Posted August 30, 2021 Report Posted August 30, 2021 The paper also appears to state that it has gonome hamon and masame hada. I also think that it attributes the sword to the Edo period, making it a true samurai sword. Sadaharu is listed in Hawley's as Kensaishi Sadaharu, and worked in 1866, toward the end of Edo. 1 Quote
Edward Mahle Posted September 5, 2021 Author Report Posted September 5, 2021 Thank you Robert for giving me further details on the translation paper. From the research that I've done on this sword It really does point towards the Gassan school. I don't think the people who made the judgment did it at random between the hada hamon size of the nagasa scream Gassan. Quote
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