Geistops Posted June 7, 2021 Report Posted June 7, 2021 Have had poor luck finding information on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Quote
Ray Singer Posted June 7, 2021 Report Posted June 7, 2021 The mei is Kawachi no kami Kunisuke. The nakago appears to have been cleaned at some point. https://nihontoclub.com/view/smiths/meisearch?type=All&mei_op=contains&mei=河内守國助 Quote
Jacques Posted June 7, 2021 Report Posted June 7, 2021 Seems gimei, the whole style doesn't match and the ji kuni should be more elongated (whatever the generation) . Shodai : https://www.seiyudo.com/wa-010417.htm Nidai https://www.seiyudo.com/wa-010417.htm Quote
Geistops Posted June 7, 2021 Author Report Posted June 7, 2021 So from what I am trying to understand one person says could this and other says could be a fake? I do understand smiths were copied and faked a lot. Just trying to nail down the info on this before I put in safe and forget. Quote
ChrisW Posted June 7, 2021 Report Posted June 7, 2021 They're giving you two slightly different readings on the signature, it appears. Reading these old mei can be tricky for a lot of reasons. Ray is giving you his translation of what the signature implies; Jacques is giving you his and explaining to you that the signature is what we call Gimei: or a falsely made signature. It means that the signature is likely a forgery done by someone else: either with intent to deceive or in honor of that person, or for any other myriad of reasons. I am not sure who is reading it correctly. Give the board a little more time and someone will confirm it. Quote
Jacques Posted June 7, 2021 Report Posted June 7, 2021 1 hour ago, uwe said: Same sword Jacques?! Oh, my mistake, the right link and it's the nidai too. https://www.touken-sato.com/event/katana/2015/10/K-kunisuke-02.html Quote
Ray Singer Posted June 7, 2021 Report Posted June 7, 2021 54 minutes ago, ChrisW said: Ray is giving you his translation of what the signature implies; Jacques is giving you his and explaining to you that the signature is what we call Gimei: or a falsely made signature. Exactly right, only providing a reading and a reference for who the mei is referring to. Not saying the signature is authentic, which I have doubts on as well. Quote
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