Tosa Kuni Ju Myochin Munetoshi update

[Hector]

These things are everywhere.

 

One sold on Yahoo for ¥22,000 and there's currently one on Mercari for ¥25,600.

 

I still don't understand why Shibui Swords is in denial. Doubling down instead of admitting an honest mistake won't uphold a highly respected reputation - it will only damage it.

 

[Hokke]

It’s likely one of two reasons….

Genuinely believes they have the original

or

Purchased it as original and must sell as original in order not to lose money

im not aware of anyone here having had the opportunity to actually hold it in hand, so I don’t know anyone can claim 100% that it’s a copy, however, the pictures don’t seem to be ambiguous…

[Hector]

8 minutes ago, Hokke said:

It’s likely one of two reasons….

Genuinely believes they have the original

or

Purchased it as original and must sell as original in order not to lose money

im not aware of anyone here having had the opportunity to actually hold it in hand, so I don’t know anyone can claim 100% that it’s a copy, however, the pictures don’t seem to be ambiguous…

Well, option one is a non starter as the tsuba on their website clearly shows all the grinding scars Dale told us to expect - in exactly the position he said they would be found.

 

So option two it must be.

[Curran]

On 7/28/2026 at 12:48 PM, Hector said:

From the VARSHAVSKY COLLECTION website. 
They usually know what's what.

 

 

Given that I wrote him a letter and spoke with him by phone earlier this year,

the Varshavsky collection is guilty of fake news here.

 

I hate that term.

In his late 90s now, Bob is still an active asset to this field of art + other fields too.

[Hokke]

3 hours ago, Curran said:

 

In his late 90s now, Bob is still an active asset to this field of art + other fields too.

 

Sounds good to me, glad thats cleared up now, thanks for the confirmation

[Hokke]

8 hours ago, Hector said:

Well, option one is a non starter as the tsuba on their website clearly shows all the grinding scars Dale told us to expect - in exactly the position he said they would be found.

 

 

Well....yes and no. After all, people often see what they WANT to see, regardless of evidence......hence 2+ BILLION christians and two BILLION muslims

[Curran]

Just the basics here:

 

The design is a long known and recognized Myochin that EVERYBODY copied even back in Edo.  So:

 

(0) Originals

(1)  you get a Tosa Myochin copy of the original.....

(2) some other schools copied it too, in their own way

(3) a few modern utsushi

(4) a lot of fake cast ones.

 

If I were into the design, I'd be careful with them unless I could handle it first and study it myself.

There are just too many copies of it around.

 

Don't make a mountain out of a molehill on this one, or digress into an argument about religions and the world.

Just learn to recognize it as one of the dangerous designs. 

There are a few Akasaka designs that are nearly as often copied or faked.

etc, etc, etc....

 

 

 

[Hector]

4 hours ago, Curran said:

 

 

Given that I wrote him a letter and spoke with him by phone earlier this year,

the Varshavsky collection is guilty of fake news here.

 

I hate that term.

In his late 90s now, Bob is still an active asset to this field of art + other fields too.

Well, that's good news at any rate!