docliss Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 I have just received three sentoku tsuba which Ford Hallam has repatinated for me. Before his ministrations these were raw brass in colouration – due, I think, to the use by a previous owner of WD40! I have attached ‘before’ and ‘after’ images of the tsuba, from which you will appreciate the excellent results obtained for a very modest charge. Ford’s work is very highly recommended. John L. Quote
docliss Posted September 2, 2008 Author Report Posted September 2, 2008 And finally, the sixth image ... Quote
Brian Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 3 Beautiful tsuba there Doc! I can see why you wanted them restored, and it certainly looks to have been well worth it. It is Great to see them as they were intended to look. Lovely color to them, and i expect that is how they came from the original tsubashi all those years ago. Any larger pics to share? I like the look of them a lot. Brian Quote
Brian Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 Just a quick job to show the one. Wow..what a difference. Not just to the background, but the whole tsuba looks revitalised and vibrant. More pics! Brian Quote
John A Stuart Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 I was not a fan of shinchu tsuba, gravitating to suaka precisely because of the harshness of brass (subjectively). However I may revise my opinion if they can be made to look like this. I wonder if more than one patination process/formula was used here. Different areas seem to have been coloured (term?) to provide contrast. These aren't different metals are they, reacting to the wash differently? or were different solutions used? John The elephant tsuba, I mean. The bottom one is obviously multi metal. The before pic of the elephant tsuba seems all brass. John Quote
Brian Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 Elephant??? I think that proves that Doc L. needs to upload bigger pics. If i am not mistaken, that is a tiger. Brian Quote
John A Stuart Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 :lol: Ok, I put on my specs and lo and behold a tiger, tora tora, looking over it's shoulder. What can I say. My poor eyes. John Quote
Brian Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 If I have this right (and I sure hope I do ) then I have permission to post this example for now. I am blown away by the difference! I think those meiji vases of mine are on the way very shortly, Ford Brian Quote
Brian Posted September 2, 2008 Report Posted September 2, 2008 :lol: Ok, I put on my specs and lo and behold a tiger, tora tora, looking over it's shoulder. What can I say. My poor eyes. John John, Can't blame you, no elephants or tigers out there on the open ocean waters Apparently we here in Africa still have lions and tigers wandering our streets, so no wonder we identify them so easily Brian Quote
docliss Posted September 2, 2008 Author Report Posted September 2, 2008 Brian The 'before' and 'after' pictures that I posted were Ford's, and try as I might, I could not enlarge them to an acceptable clarity. If you are able to post the other four images, I would be most grateful and, if not, I will take some more photographs myself. Ford will be better able to tell you details of his tecnique, but I believe that the differing colouration is caused by the different metal's reaction to a the single patination process. Correct me, Ford, if I am wrong in this. The link to Ford's photographs is: http://picasaweb.google.com/tsubaman/TsubaJohnLissendon?authkey=tC9xgpEclhw John. Quote
Ford Hallam Posted September 4, 2008 Report Posted September 4, 2008 Thanks for the recommendation, John. I actually quite enjoy working on soft-metal tsuba so the job was a pleasure. ...and thank you for the kind words, Gentlemen John ( Stuart ) these shinchu type tsuba were all originally patinated various shades of ochre like this. The appearance of most tsuba made of this sort of alloy is just due to excessive handling. This particular patina is one of the more delicate ones and in time they have simply been polished up by hand, literally The actual colours you can see, and each tsuba is of a different composition, is due entirely to the make up of the alloy. Unfortunately, due to surface corrosion, much of it invisible to the naked eye, the actual composition on the face of the plate is frequently, slightly different to that in the core of the metal. Thankfully this is not always the case and examples that have not suffered thus provide a good base line in terms of judging the accuracy of the colours. What this means is that unless a fresh surface is created it will be impossible to recover the colour as it was when new but with a little tweaking I'm generally able to find a reasonable balance. My reluctance to re-polish the surface is down to the fact that the piece then ends up looks far too perfect and new. I use a classical approach and the actual solution is roughly the same, very mild copper salt mix as traditionally used. The temperature and the additions of a few other, balancing ingredients, in tiny quantities, are all I play with. Thanks again all, Regards, Ford Quote
Lorenzo Posted September 4, 2008 Report Posted September 4, 2008 As some of you maybe know, I was in Ford's studio in that period and I could see the tsuba in person. What struck me about the real color of the alloy patinated, is the various tones. It is an unbelivable quantity of brown, and in my opinion, it looks like brown leather. Stunning effect, really. Quote
rkg Posted September 4, 2008 Report Posted September 4, 2008 Hey guys, Actually, old brass pieces aren't that bad. Here's one I got on a lark not too long ago from aoi art (and still happen to have the images online): The piece is a bit interesting in that it appears that it was covered with gold/lacquer with black lacquer in the low spots at one point - I didn't get a hi-mag image, but here's a close-up: Best, rkg (Richard George) Quote
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