Help Identity Our Mon.

[Marcin]

1 hour ago, Bruce Pennington said:

Was the kikusui used as a mon?  This is on a Type 98 fuchi, older mumei blade, at this Bradfords Auction

Page 246 of book I linked. Ask for traslation. Looking like nice source showing evolution.

If someone could explain/give some source to get knowledge about crests generally. 

[Bugyotsuji]

Yes, the Kikusui is a famous Mon/Kamon. It alludes to one of the most famous classical legends and is associated with Lord Kusunoki, inter alia.

 

33 says Kikusui, i.e. chrysanthemum and waters

34 says Kikusui with leaves, i.e. chrysanthemum and waters, with leaves.

[Bruce Pennington]

Wow, that was an extensive list of Mon!  I saw two Kiku, but none with sui, or none sitting on a river.

[Marcin]

4 hours ago, Bruce Pennington said:

Wow, that was an extensive list of Mon!  I saw two Kiku, but none with sui, or none sitting on a river.

It's last post on page 16 of this thread 5k examples.

 

[Bugyotsuji]

Yes Bruce the one you showed at the bottom of the previous page.

And look at these two:

 

[Marcin]

1 hour ago, Bugyotsuji said:

Yes Bruce the one you showed at the bottom of the previous page.

And look at these two:

 

Nr 33 Its your mon. Page 246 @Bruce Pennington

[Bruce Pennington]

Thanks guys!  You nailed it.

 

So, the owner likely used it as a tip-o-the-hat to Lord Kusunoki, or his family, like thousands of others, adopted the mon for their own.

The add for the auction claims the swords was from the Minatogawa shrine, I'm sure, based solely upon the fact that the shrine used the kikusui.

 

Thanks for the enlightenment, gents.

[uwe]

During the Edo period the "竹村家" (Takemura family) used this mon. Allegdely descendants of Kusunoki Masashige from Takeuchi in Yamato...
 

[tristan105]

Apologies, I started a new thread and should have posted here.  Bought a tsuka on the loose just for the gosan-no-kiri mon and the very nice condition naval tassel.  Can't get any closer with my lousy phone camera but it is a 3-5-3 paulownia.

[Markdd]

Hi,

Help with this Mon thanks Mark

[Marcin]

4 hours ago, Markdd said:

Hi,

Help with this Mon thanks Mark

https://www.behance.net/gallery/41878025/5000-MON-Japanese-FAMILY-CRESTS

Page 228 check book by Yourself but I didn't spot more similar.

For translation ask in translation tab.

Edited April 22 by Rawa

[DragonK]

What about this one?

[PNSSHOGUN]

Hi Mike, your example is a common motif of Mokko vine: https://irohakamon.com/kamon/mokkou/

[Marcin]

15 hours ago, DragonK said:

What about this one?

Check Settsu-Ikeda for example:

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikeda_clan

or

https://grokipedia.com/page/Ikeda_clan

Nice patina and pattern. Mon isn’t in a circle. Blade is „Emura”? 

Edited June 6 by Marcin

[PNSSHOGUN]

Attempting to correlate a family name via such a common Mon is a complete wild goose chase. 

[Marcin]

3 minutes ago, PNSSHOGUN said:

Attempting to correlate a family name via such a common Mon is a complete wild goose chase. 

That’s why I wrote

„Check Settsu-Ikeda for example”

[Marcin]

On 4/22/2026 at 7:25 PM, Markdd said:

Hi,

Help with this Mon thanks Mark

If You want to have pair with same mon

https://www.jauce.com/auction/j1232106042

[Nazar]

Not exactly a mon. Yet it seems to be related and  curious enough to post it here.  Interesting, that writing is positioned so to say  "upside down". I wonder if it was done due to how the sword was worn per regulations?

 

 

 

https://richard-militaria.at/Japan-2.-weltkrieg-saebel-fuer-infanterie-offiziere-m1875

[PNSSHOGUN]

What a curious example, usually these are much smaller and simpler. It may be a presentation/dedication inscription too.