Sword Signature Translation Please

[hddennis]

Local sword owner asked if I could help him find out what the tang says so I said I'd ask you folks.

 

Thanks for the help,

 

Howard Dennis

[obiwanknabbe]

Shot in the dark here... Kane (Kiyo?).  That second one is throwing me off.

 

Kurt K

[Stephen]

good guess id say

 

http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/oshigata/kanekiyo.jpg

[SwordGuyJoe]

Could be Kiyo, but not Showa. Any more pics - full length and detail - could help us pin down the age.

[hddennis]

Thanks guys, Have not actually seen sword in person yet so all I have are pictures sent by his phone.

 

Howard Dennis

[Stephen]

better shot of the second kanji without the glare  

[hddennis]

Since I have nothing to work with but previous photos sent to me I converted image to a negative. All I can do until he brings sword to me next week.

 

Howard Dennis

[k morita]

Hi,

 

not  "kiyo"  清.

 

The mei  says 兼得　(KaneNari / KaneYasu).

[SwordGuyJoe]

Looks like a Shinto nagamaki-naioshi wakizashi. I've always liked that style and hope one day we can see it in polish.

[SwordGuyJoe]

Markus' Index lists four Kanenari using this Kanji from Eisho to Keicho all from Mino.

[hddennis]

Thanks Guys, appreciate the help. So Kanenari is the general consensus? I ask again because I've never had a translation suggest more than one solution and don't want to pass along inaccurate information to the owner.

 

SwordGuyJoe, yes I too would love to see it in a new polish. Any idea what would be a likely hamon from this smith?

 

Howard Dennis

[SteveM]

Hello Dennis,

 

Yes, its Kanenari. For a look at some other Kanenari works - check out the links below (note: they may not all be from the same Kanenari, and they may not all be the same as your Kanenari, and the biggest caveat of all, your Kanenari may be a forgery - as many signed swords have fake signatures - but you probably already know this by now).

 

http://www.giheiya.com/shouhin_list/japanese_sword/katana/02-1039.html  (← incorrectly lists the smith as "Kane nori". Perhaps an indication of how unusual the reading is, or how obscure the smith is, or both).

http://www.tsuruginoya.com/mn1_3/a00044.html

http://www.tokka.biz/sword/kanenarisaku.html