Brian Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 Am I getting worse at this? I shouldn't be having trouble with the second kanji...probably going to kick myself. Friend asked me for help with it. Showato I assume. Kane.....X? (Hope I got the Kane right at least :lol: ) Brian Quote
Brian Posted September 6, 2013 Author Report Posted September 6, 2013 I think Veli may have it Any confirmations? If it is...he may be unrecorded? Brian Quote
J Reid Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 I change my vote to kanetsune haha Quote
Stephen Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 wow i missed the boat on this one , first mei i translated by my self back in the day, still have the sword, if youd like the mei let me know. Yes, Kanetsune and NOT a showa-to! edit to add pix even if you dont want it LOL Quote
cabowen Posted September 6, 2013 Report Posted September 6, 2013 Yes, Kanetsune and NOT a showa-to.... Quote
cabowen Posted September 7, 2013 Report Posted September 7, 2013 apparently! Actually, I hit the post button by mistake and then before I could go back and write what I wanted to my connection dropped. By the time I got back on line I had forgotten about the mis-post.....Life in the country.... Anyway, what I wanted to say was that the Kanetsune name is well known in Seki currently for their traditionally made knife manufacturing. This blade may be Sue Koto..... Quote
Brian Posted September 7, 2013 Author Report Posted September 7, 2013 Thank you gents..committed to memory. Yes..I notice how popular the name is to modern Seki knifemaking. Will investigate the late 1500's possibility. Owner had not shared any other pics yet...only knew that it was supposedly a Showato. But obviously not. Chances of gimei? Brian Quote
cabowen Posted September 7, 2013 Report Posted September 7, 2013 Always a possibility but I would bet this is ok. Quote
Veli Posted September 7, 2013 Report Posted September 7, 2013 I confess to be an admirer of Kanetsune ha, due to their tight ko-itame hada, at best being quite outstanding compared to many other Mino schools. See here what I mean: http://www.tetsugendo.com/swords/Tan_115_kanetsune.html Veli Quote
Stephen Posted September 7, 2013 Report Posted September 7, 2013 dont have my Mino book anymore but remember something to do with the long center stroke had to do with which Kanetsune, or mabe it was the Oshigata book, have no brains anymore, something to do with a cyst. Quote
John A Stuart Posted September 7, 2013 Report Posted September 7, 2013 As to Kanetsune, I quickly checked one of my 美濃刀工の研究 without going to the big boy and all six generatrions had an elongated center stroke in the 巾 part of the 常 kanji. What differentiates this mei from the others for the most crucial aspect is the composition. Only the shodai signed nijimei on katana. Subsequent generations signed Noshu or Noshu Seki, with saku except the godai which signed Kanetsune saku. John Quote
Stephen Posted September 7, 2013 Report Posted September 7, 2013 seen some longer than others know that, not completly brain dead yet, nice to know what 美濃刀工の研究means now. SO just mark my post as from a craxy old man from now on. Quote
John A Stuart Posted September 7, 2013 Report Posted September 7, 2013 Could be Stephen, but, looking at the oshigata I would have to measure to see any real difference, they are so similar. I'll not mark your posts such, there may be something to it, what do I know for sure? I guess I should have written Mino Toko no Kenkyu. John Quote
Jean Posted September 7, 2013 Report Posted September 7, 2013 I'll say shinsa. I think it is shoshin. Not worth gimeïng a Kanetsune, above all sue Koto suriage. I had once a tachi mei suriage early Muromachi Kaneyoshi submitted to Shinsa. It was postponned till further researches... Quote
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