Jcstroud
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Definitely Gifu in sakura stamp.
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A good example of a Naval Rinji Seishiki with 2 mekugi ana
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Notice the same crosshatch filepattern? Interesting comparison...T y s k?
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Maybe we should ask @SteveMhis opinion on this kanji I dont know what to make of this one,seems quite different. Or @Kiipu.
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I have noticed a seeming pattern the green paint combined with the black 2 digit numbers ,combined with the 4mm circled anchor stamp with fishhook style barbs,and flat cut tangs all seem to have come from Takayama forge ,also the same swordsmith names. Perhaps these swords were collected by Tenshozan workshop As salvagable seconds that were not spec compliant.the green paint probably designated them for army px contract use.
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https://www.warrelic...-performance-715257/ Thanks to @Kiipu@Bruce Penningtonhave discovered an article of the late Nick Komiya at the War Relics site: very relative to this topic ...check it out! John S. Nlf they were.
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Hey, Bruce can you tell me the nakago length of your souvenir sword with kiri flatcut please. ?and also the takayama to in order to establish a chart for comparisons
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One theory of mine considering all that we have discovered about this type of swords is that theywere originally longer for cadet training in Toyama .reasons being the ubu ha,the longer nakago, overweight blades for the length,thicker kissaki ,conform to takayama 2nd design specs. Possible? As compared to the Bujin-to 1939 Naval Nlf specs ,aka Rikusen-to. One other possibility is they were intended to be a Naval Rinji Seishiki as their nakago length was 242mm w/ 2 mekugi ana.
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KIIPU, You made my day I can not stop laughing. But I do offer tour guides en serio.yo no estoy hodiendo.
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Ok Ok you got it just could not resist. A little tit for tat as it were. Thanks
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Your bias is obvious,and your spelling is terrible.What is cicsled? Ah it is so easy to be a critic yes? 😁
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I agree this sword is an example of an polish gone bad. But that is no reason to critisize all souvenir swords because not all are bad blades. My opinion is this... any blade that will shave the hair off your arm after 78 years on the original polish is a bad ass blade.period.say what you want to .that will not change the facts. John S.
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The uncircled anchors were from Tenshozan tanrenjo aka Kamakura aka Japanese Naval Sword Company in Zishi for those who do not know . John S. P.S.but not like the example in kiipu's previous link.even though Shigemitsu was said to have worked at Tenshozan
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Both are one and the same.
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Thought this would be appropriate for the conversation.
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Hey,Trystan where did you find this one?
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The latest posting I would not buy the supposed Masahiro has too many issues ragged mei,incorrect fittings,too many red flags. Imo I hope to say we are not confusing issues. This I like because I own one very much like it. The Bradford auction sword I would avoid.too late sold already John S.
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Now if you ask me would I buy it... if the price is right probably.These Takayama produced blades were alloy stainless and stay sharp for ages.they are killer blades,not nihonto,not cheap wallhangers not for the collector elite.would be great for dressing out a deer during hunting season.
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First possible reason is they are illegal in Japan to this very day.Second reason is unstamped blades typically bring better money .Armory stamped usually means they were machine made in a non traditional manner or non Japanese steel. Now to answer the other question yes very likely surplus wartime made IMO.
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Question for @Conway S does the nakago measure 8 7/8 inches ? The reason for asking is to establish a common characteristic .these type of swords with the flat cut tang appear to have longer originally and then cut to RJT spec length leaving 8mm+- for finishing A common trait for end war/postwar U.S. PX bought souvenir swords.imo John S.
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The best person to ask is @Bruce Penningtonhe has put together a cool chart listing Souvenir swords and associated info. He has several Masahiro's and also Masanao's listed .whether they have stamped number or not .but I am sure several have painted numbers for sure.Can find it in the NLF topic.
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In reference to this stamp I personally have not seen this one before but it looks like an entrance to a shrine "Inaba shrine" perhaps?....this shrine is located on the grounds of Gifu castle a beautiful location fyi. John S.
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Interesting symbol is the same as the first reference point ofthe 1940 navy spec drawing followed by what appears to symbols for 2 shaku could an approval stamp verifying it passed length spec ? Now that is what you call "spec."ulation. I have only seen these on Inaba blades. 😁 John S.
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It reads Inaba it is a signature believed to be shared by Nakata Isamu Kanehide and his brother Matsubara Shozo the three digits are normally seen on RJT blades ,likely the work of Kanehide but that is just my guess there are others on this forum with much more expertise. John S.
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Tenshozan tanrenjo as you know had a contract with the U.S. ARMY to buy these swords for $ 6.50each according to the documents previously mentioned in this topic as such there would be no reason to"spice them up" in order to obtain abetter price. As you also know many of these are mumei which also discredits this theory. Respectfully John Stroud
