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I can confirm bad corrosion and if I understand correctly, I think the beading is just curved and not hemispherical. Dale, I really enjoy your books and comparison pictures, thank you very much for your work

Hi Dale, Regarding your commonly cast Nanban pages, I have this example which I'm fond of (even though the patina is a little hit and miss) as it appears to be chiseled and has actual button inlay (eyes). Ive looked for a few years and I have not been able to find another similar. I suspect this is a relatively new Tsuba example. would love to know what you think, apologies if this is not the time or place for this, I can pm if better edit: Chris, your post wasnt there when I was typing, that is amazing!

Thanks Dale, I actually have at least three of your books already, I did not make the connection! I have your Public Domain Tsuba MET book(s) on my birthday wish list at the moment

I do not mean to deviate from the thread topic, but this self published book looks quite interesting, do you have a link to more information on it?

that is a great example of what to look for

Thank you Ford, something I had noticed but not thought through, I don't think I would ever have come to that thought myself

That's what I am also wondering Hamfish, I understand where you are coming from, there seems too much Kanji for mountain/temple. I'm glad you mentioned that Geraint, it was one of the points I got focussed on initially, it plagued me in a dream. Also one other focal point for me was the bottom Kanji only fixing to the mimi and separated from the seppadai...there other points of pleasure and frustration for me... like the facial cuts in the mountain valleys. I perhaps should not be devoting so much thought to this Tsuba, but it has me drawn

Hello all, I very recently bought this Tsuba as it was able to hold my interest for a bit longer than usual, was cheap and filled a temporary 'Sukashi' hole in my collection. The seller advertised it as Edo period which for all I know, it could be (ultimately does not matter in this case). In hand I still quite like it, I just get the feeling it is newer than Edo period, I was hoping to get some opinions on this. More a test to how I'm coming along in my own learning of the field. Thank you Stephen Also, apologies if the photo leaves more to be desired, I am currently trying something different.

Just want to add, that photos can make gold look painted rather than added in the traditional ways

My .02, I see the extension, but I also see an insect

The 'cantilevered' version that has slots to hold the Nakago is pretty cool, I have not seen that before.

After starting this thread, I came across this Kozuka and thought Id take hold of it. Admittedly it is very cheap (60), but the Jurojin character speaks to me in some way and I didn't think the quality was too bad. After a few years of collecting, this is my first Kozuka and my first Tosogu with Kata-kiri bori design, I had been 'hung-up' with inlays until now. I hope at least some of you like it as I do,

Dont worry too much about this one Roger, I remember from an earlier thread of yours that you have some great Soten Tsuba that I would love to have in my collection,

Hi Roger, If it is ok, Id like to throw in my 2 cents and agree with Jean, especially in regards to the 'dot inlays'. Judging by the photos provided, It seems as the bulk of these are a cast 'dot' which have then been coloured in gold.

If I had to take a stab at it, my guess would be a very thin nail polish? 'watered' down, but still enough to dry very hard

Thank you for pointing out the spirals George, although I did notice it, I did not take that perspective on them or the 'start-stop' carving of the rockwork.

I like it Stephen, Id consider it myself if I had the spare funds! I notice some of the rock carvings on the right side have the 'start stop marks as per George's earlier post. Im assuming the occasional carving with these is ok and perhaps unavoidable, but at what point/quantity of carves, would these be unacceptable? I hear the magic number for Tsuba with lost Zogan is 10%, would this be similar?

Some Tsuba from this seller are ok, especially when you consider the cost they are purchased for. Aside from the glued decorated Tsuba that they sell, the other issue I see from this seller is that they seem to lacquer or coat them with something. Judging by your pictures I would say your Tsuba is also coated. Heating the Tsuba could cause this coating to melt or stain? I recently bought from this seller and although it too was coated, it was (very) cheap and it filled the 'example gap' in my collection, until I can trade up to a better example.

not sure, I know that seller seems to sell a lot of Tsuba like that (glued decorations) just wondering if it was bought through them.

I really Like the first one out of the three

Hi Dwain, was Tsuba purchased from seller yumi3go55 by any chance?

Thank you for the examples everyone I think I'm generally getting it. The sitting Tiger made my heart skip a beat... wow.... Just wow...

Thanks Mark, possibly that is why I have not seen 'bad examples', I'm looking from a binary point of view... I'm looking at magnified stills of individual lines a lot of the time, this is the first thing I am going to stop doing. Great example of Pietà, I know of the artwork at the Vatican, I did a quick image search and didn't realise the existence of some of the other examples.

Thank you for your reply Mark, the feeling I had was that the two go hand in hand, but I constantly find myself being surprised in this large field. I think I understand what you mean between western and eastern artworks, this is something I'm still learning, but understanding relatively easily. I also agree I would rather good carving over good composition, however, I find myself only seeing what is considered good carving and I truly cannot say I have seen 'bad carving', this causes doubt about what I think I know so far.

Hello all, I was looking through an old NMB thread a while back regarding the differences between 'good and bad' Nanako and was wondering if there is a similar thread about Kata-kiri bori? I couldn't hit a thread with the search button, but im trying to learn if good and bad examples of Kata-kiri bori are more from the actual carving itself or from an artistic/subject matter point of view? I'm hoping someone can please help cheers