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Sorry, got another that is a Handachi in similar, not gunto, mounts, was only a guess. + i Wouldnt Now know how to change tittle..sorry, new to it all + i do all this on my phone & not on computer..Don't have one!! Mark

Thanks Paul, Sorry about the pics, they're the only ones that were sent by the owner. I will be having it in hand hopefully by 2moro. 2 me so far, yes the blade looks alittle alive, but the mounts seem too plain for the blades look of quality. Do you think an older sword maybe, in standard military mountings (type 1??) Boshi also looks hard to see, somewhat + you can't really judge the sori from his pics Can't wait to see anyways in hand, just for a look. The owners want to get rid of it & are looking to pass it on. But they haven't told me a price they want yet Thanks again Mark

Hello all, Just a short one, I'm looking at this sword in the next few days & it will be in hand for better pics to be posted soon. In advance, I'll apologize for these pics, they've all i got so far untill i get to it. Please if anyone has any comments or suggestions on it Thanks ps.The Tsuka Has not been ever removed Cheers Mark

Thanks Klaus, thinking still Sadatsugu maybe, same. Forgot 2 mention too, Sharp as, sharpest of 3 I have. Not bad i think, But im just a starter!. Mark

Got it in hand post better pics of mei and better blade. I believe half alright for price. See what you recon. Tried to do different shots. Still not sure on the second character? Here's a few blade. Thanks Mark L

I know not right area (4 blade shots) Just a couple of it thou. Plus closer tsuba Tsuka not original, fitted later already know 4-5 days will be in hand, post better shots then. Mark

Thank you, she's on the way Trying 2 pin the tail on the smith, only problem!! Happy with purchase either way.

Do you think Peter, mei could be sadahiro??

Thank you Peter, was only a thought about hi, good 2 hear different veiws Mark

Can have a go at Shira-saya, pretty much unreadable. See pics, sorry all i got. Thanks Mark

Thought the norm. would have it run down nakago? do u think original maybe? was only a thought, yes Sadatsugu does horimono, and thought if original, that would have been? ??

Yes, thankyou though so myself A steal at price paid i paid...bit over 500 nice hey Will see when in hand more so, fingers crossed My look too Thanks again Mark L

Yes Steve, thanks She's a bit tired, but good price. Have more not good thou. Has atori-bori hi, someone thought it was worthy at some point.

Will have this wakizashi turning up soon.. Will post when in hand, would like more opinion on mei, hard to make out fully. See what u think, deep sori 2.2, 53 cm nagasa. Tried different effect. What is it?.... Thats the question! Got my thoughts 'n' sellers, what do u think? maybe.. Mark

Hey Ben, Small world hey, good 2 c another aussie nice sword looks ok? Why are you selling? Can I ask Mark L

Told it has 2.2 sori, pretty deep for short sword. Told Also 4-500yr old, Edo. Is this fist gen. Sadatsugu? Or later? Other side nakago Total package Thanks Mark L

Hi all, just thought I'd post pics of a Sadatsugu (I'm told)53cm nagasa wakizashi, Sorry about pics all i got. I'm looking 2 add this one shortly 2 the lot, and would like 2 know more about it. Comments all good, thanks Details not 2 good in pics Mark L

Seller didn't mention TSUBA (brain work! me smart!) when i bought a mumei wakizashi,see pics Handachi ito koshirae Would like to learn more about signature and blade, was picked up cheap altogether Mark L

My bad trying out new phone, didnt realise each time press ts up came tsuka not tsuba and i just pressed Derrr, see kids thats what that stuff does to ur brain... Mark L

By chance can anybody translate mei on this for me. Its not much but a bonus with wakizashi bought. Seller didn't mention either. See pics.thanks Mark L

And more here Thanks. Mark L

Finally got it. See pics wasn't as long as told only bit over 53cm nagasa, still long wakizashi. Blades ok for the price, koshirae fair and well used but seems to gel together. Got a bonus i didn't know was there + seller didn't mention, was a signed Tsuka, not fancy but cool. Need translation on it and will post in right bit, but 4 now check out blade..any comments or thoughts?? Will post more. Mark L

Can't wait turns up 2moro, Will post better pics then For what its worth found also bit of info. on possible koshirae mount references.. Just a thought, or could be a secondary with wearer preference of koshirae..got told exact length 54.5cm -1 shaku 8 sun. parallel to the rigid social hierarchy, structured in classes, which cemented further during the Edo period, clandestine organizations and outlaws emerged in a significant number. For example, there were gamblers ( bakuto , 博徒) and pushers ( Tekiya , 的屋), who had rigid internal codes that make them the predecessors of the modern yakuza . "Heroic" members of these groups who defended the "poor" citizens against unlawful and arbitrary acts of samurai premises were Latinized as k yōkaku ( 侠客), literally "cavalrymen." Obviously these k yōkaku did not follow the law because they saw themselves as the "Robin Hood", wore a longer blade than was possible (usually in style handachi ), a wakizashi (see Figure) that it was not called ō-wakizashi, but naga-wakizashi ( 長脇指·長脇差) in this context. To restore local peace, bakufu sometimes had no choice but to grant the leaders of these "organizations" certain rights so that they were at least able to keep the other underground groups under control, and one of these rights was allowed to bring a naga - wakizashi instead of a ko - wakizashi . As you can see, the bakufu sometimes preferred to turn a blind eye on some things as long as they were not disturbed by them. Among other things, these k yōkaku were thus also known as Naga - wakizashi , ie "those with the long wakizashi ". Because these naga - wakizashi were the outer appearance virtually identical to a katana, as well as terms ipponzashi ( 一本差) and ippongatana ( 一本刀) began to be used to refer to k yōkaku . These terms should be understood as an allusion to the term nihonzashi ( 二本差), literally "the two blades" or "carriers of two blades," which was another term for a member of the class samurai . Thoughts or comments.. More pics soon Mark L

Quote'only last post is what i found from 2014 forum not my words. Just saying my bit,to make sense more, different saya is commonly seen. Is it not!?? The sword is bought from a not so' knowledgeable bloke in nihonto,but, he is a man of word,a friend of my fathers(dad swears). I didnt know he had the sword until the day i over heard a conversation between 2, he told my father that he was selling his whole collection cause him and wife were splitting-house 'n' all.Gone U c my dad collects coins...conversation went for a bit then my ears pricked to my dad said 'sword'... Rest history mine now, dad spoke with him and he says' he's had it 4 a while, got it this way off a ww2 army bloke (couldn't remember the name) and has had it for a long time(thanks dad 4 finding out earlier!???? he's collected off him 15yrs!) Anyway all good apparently.how it is,was the way it was. Either way didn't even cost Me $300.. delivered 2 my door!!... All good, won't hear me complain.. Mark L

12 Aug 2014 Do we have a smilie for, "Knuckles rapped"? Thank you for mediating the cultural differences on this little island John. So back to wakizashi. Kurt you may of course assume that the sword belonged to whoever you like but there are one or two things to consider. You mention that it was just a little longer than normal wakizashi length. What had you considered normal? I ask because I seem to have them in all sorts of lengths. As we have already established that some daisho occur with the dai below what we would call katana length it appears that the standard lengths we work with were at best disregarded by a lot of people. It is not too uncommon to find a sword mounted in a saya that is much longer than the blade length would dictate though I have usually seen this in wakizashi which have had a tanto blade mounted. I saw one of those recently and if I can find the link I will post it. I think that we are chasing moonbeams if we try to assign swords to a certain class of owner based on any of this. We know that daisho were the badge of office of the samurai, for at least most of the Edo period. We can guess that certain other koshirae were worn by samuari because of their good taste but as most of us really struggle to identify what good taste is now, never mind for a Japanese at any period of history, we are probably in the realms of fantasy. If you don't have it the catalogue of swords in the Tokugawa collection is interesting here, all sorts of mountings. If we say that significant numbers of high quality wakizashi were produced in a period of Japanese history because of the growing wealth of the merchant class then we are talking about the blades, and by the way commending them for their high quality. Really can't comment about ninja swords as I thought they were all black with dirty great big square tsuba to act as ladders and nearly straight. Hope you approve Stephen, now I'm diving for a nice comfortable hole in the ground.