christianmalterre Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Here´s an quite typical Norisuke school Tsuba i just found... Though,it´s condition does not really allow so to ask this requested price in mine eyes-it´s nice so to see one of him again.(too much nonsense Tsuba posted otherwise,good to see an typical and classical one again,which does generally speaking,seem to get rare those days...?) (Do post this in regard of those both senior Tsuba collectors here in the forum from which i do know they both do have an very similar one in their´s collection ) Hope you both like it? Christian Quote
Henry Wilson Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Nice tsuba. It looks a bit like this one below which is copper with a gold wash. The pattern is waves. It is 6.6 x 5.9 x 0.4 cm and quite tired. Any ideas on the group and age? Quote
christianmalterre Posted July 6, 2012 Author Report Posted July 6, 2012 Unfortunately not Henry...at least not yet...not really mine stuff-i but like it! I´m but quite confident that our´s Polish friend may have an fitting attribution Very nice indeed! Your´s? Christian Quote
docliss Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Dear Christian, thank you for posting the image of the tsuba by Iwata Norisuke. You are quite correct in your recollection of a similar tsuba in my own collection. This is mumei, and I have labelled it as a possible utsushi by Iwata Noriaki (H 07309.0), working 1925-50 on iron plate, in the early style of the school. John L. Quote
christianmalterre Posted July 6, 2012 Author Report Posted July 6, 2012 :D ! to be honest-i still do prefer the your´s one John! here you very certainly made an great deal! Christian Quote
Ron STL Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Henry, I wonder if this would fall into tachishi work, tachikangushi tsuba ca. Momoyama era thereabout. Often their hitsuana are more odd-shaped than what we see here, but being copper, gold wash, probably relatively thin and the many punchings around the hitsu-ana, that would be my call. Ron H. Quote
christianmalterre Posted July 6, 2012 Author Report Posted July 6, 2012 Ron, this is an excellent question-and remark. I had the same feeling first,meanwhile do but doupt an bit in this... I think,we first had to get better datas and pictures by Henry.. Next would then be,so to focus especially on the execution... (as already mentioned-i´d wish mine friend here would give an first statement,as he´s certainly much more into softmetal than myself) I do me hard with this genaral "Stiffness" in it´s execution,such to attribute it calmly younger....it´s not really "That"(You see?) Not really that for an earlier one... (I but can be wrong of course!-it´s just an actual feeling...) Christian Quote
Curran Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Oh Christian... My hero! You have saved me from the sea of kodogu shiite flowing across... This is a nice Norisuke hommage to Saotome. It is not my favorite design, but such a nice tsuba. Image is from Nagoya NBTHK Norisuke book. Quote
Marius Posted July 6, 2012 Report Posted July 6, 2012 Henry, I wonder if this would fall into tachishi work, tachikangushi tsuba ca. Momoyama era thereabout. Often their hitsuana are more odd-shaped than what we see here, but being copper, gold wash, probably relatively thin and the many punchings around the hitsu-ana, that would be my call. . Ron, I agree with your attribution. It seems a Momoyama tsuba, judging by the shape, wave design and goldwash. It is not earlier as seppa-dai is too wide for early Muromachi. As to attributing it to tachi-shi/tachikanagushi - keep in mind that these are a construct, popularised by Torigoye, and accepted in order to put earlier tsuba into certain categories. Nothing wrong with that but, there are no sources which would indicate that tachikanagishi (or tachishi) were a group separate form ko-kinko or kagamishi for that matter. I prefer to say early soft metal tsuba. A nice tsuba, that is for sure. I have one that is similar in shape, however made of yamagane, you have most likely seen it. Boris Markhasin from whom I have acquired it describes it as a shitogi tsuba utsushi dating to the 15th, beginning 16th century. This might be right, although the shape of a true shitogi tsuba is much different. Here is my tsuba (there are a few pictures there if you care to click "next"): http://s1150.photobucket.com/albums/o61 ... G_8067.jpg Quote
christianmalterre Posted July 6, 2012 Author Report Posted July 6, 2012 Curran glad you join and do post "it"... Mariusz Thanks a lot!-such no "nervousity" at least...Laugh! Henry? Christian Quote
Henry Wilson Posted July 7, 2012 Report Posted July 7, 2012 Thanks all for taking the time to comment on my tsuba. I would say that Ron and Mariusz are on the money with this one. I would say a Momoyama tsuba (maybe early Muromachi) that was worn on a tachi, but modified later for an uchigatana. Regards Quote
Soshin Posted July 11, 2012 Report Posted July 11, 2012 Hi Christian, I have been very busy as of late. I just finish selling my papered Noritsuke school tsuba and 20 other tsuba. A major collection reduction on my part. Let's just say that I am making the transition from minor leagues to big leagues to use a Baseball analogue. Say tuned everyone I will try to take some photos next week. Yours truly, David Stiles Quote
christianmalterre Posted July 11, 2012 Author Report Posted July 11, 2012 David if it´s worth so to ben purchased-do not hesitate with me... In regard of what you wrote in addition-this is an very good decision!(Laugh!) Christian Quote
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