docliss Posted March 21, 2012 Report Posted March 21, 2012 I believe that I may have posted this query on the NMB some time ago, but am still seeking an answer, and will try again if I may. I am seeking a translation of a red lacquer shumei on a tsuba that will probably be considered as katchushi. The kanji to the right of the nakago-hitsu have been tentatively identified as possibly 一 阿 乙 小, and that on the left as a kao. But they don’t make any sense to me. Any help will be gratefully received. With thanks, John L. Quote
christianmalterre Posted March 21, 2012 Report Posted March 21, 2012 Dear John, may i ask you so to provide me with more info relating to this Tsuba? Where does it sort out?/(is it your´s or an friend´s one?) What do you know(or do not know?)concerning it´s history here in modern days?(again-the "sort it out" question but in regard of former proviniance...) Could you tell me,if this is,in your´s feeling here,an old lacquer? Can you provide better resolution pictures?(those here are just "rough")(Sorry,but i can not really see much here...) Indeed-an very interesting Tsuba! Christian Quote
docliss Posted March 21, 2012 Author Report Posted March 21, 2012 Dear Christian, in reply to your queries, the tsuba belongs to a friend/collector, and I know nothing of its provenance. The lacquer is certainly old. I apologise for the poor quality of the enlargement, but fear that is the best I can offer for the moment. John L. Quote
Soshin Posted March 22, 2012 Report Posted March 22, 2012 Hi John, What are the measurements of the tsuba including thickness at the rim (mimi) and near the center (seppa-dai)? Having better photos would be helpful but I can understand if you can't get them easily. Yours truly, David Stiles Quote
docliss Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Posted March 22, 2012 Dear Christian and David, I am sorry that I am unable to supply the additional details that you have both requested. But, while I fully appreciate the importance of such factors in deciding upon an attribution, I fail to see their relevance in answering my specific query. With kind regards, John L. Quote
John A Stuart Posted March 22, 2012 Report Posted March 22, 2012 Hi John, I have been trying to figure out what this may mean until going cross-eyed. Maybe some one better at sosho writing can help. I have tried many combos such as Kazuyuki, Ichirin etc. but none fit esp. with the what appears to be 小 added. Ichirin has a similar kao as yours, but, those can be fairly similar. John Quote
Soshin Posted March 22, 2012 Report Posted March 22, 2012 Dear Christian and David, I am sorry that I am unable to supply the additional details that you have both requested. But, while I fully appreciate the importance of such factors in deciding upon an attribution, I fail to see their relevance in answering my specific query. With kind regards, John L. Hi John, Well give the limited information I not going to try to identify the tsuba. As for the shumei is likely just a latter attribution someone made as to the maker of the tsuba. I have seen this more often on Nihonto. The Hoami would use gold in there attribution signatures of muei Nihonto. Over the weekend a friend show me a Nihonto he had with a gold attribution mei made by a Hoami who made the attribution in the Edo Period to what is a Koto tachi that was shorted and the signature lost on the nakago. I don't think a tsubako would ever use a shumei in signing their work. Yours truly, David Stiles Quote
docliss Posted March 22, 2012 Author Report Posted March 22, 2012 Thank you both for your input - Ko-Shoami or Saotome would both be acceptable attributions. A defaced example of a similar tsuba is illustrated as lot no 1022 in Haynes' catalogue #4, where it is dated as ca 1500. John L. Quote
Soshin Posted March 22, 2012 Report Posted March 22, 2012 Hi Alan and John, The Ko-Shoami school makes sense and the shumei was a attribution added later. This also makes sense given all Ko-Shoami are unsigned. Yours truly, David Stiles Quote
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