tanto style fittings/koshirae for katana?

[chi fan wong]

hi all,

is there any katana fittings or koshirae in the tsuba-less style of tanto fittings/koshirae out there? what is the type of fitting call where the koiguchi matches the fuchi in a single design?

regards,

chi fan

[John A Stuart]

Wong sin saang, The aikuchi type koshirae. Here is a link. http://www.shadowofleaves.com/Japanese-swords/aikuchi/

John

[chi fan wong]

i was thinking of this.

 

know if this type of koshirae is ever used on a katana?

 

regards,

chifan

[Curgan]

Yes, they did. In fact there are many (if not all) mounters that make aikuchi koshirae and there were iaito for practice as well.

[John A Stuart]

...and we mustn't forget who made this type of koshirae for tachi famous; Kenshin. John

[Eric H]

Kenshin style Koshirae

[Pete Klein]

Uchigatana, not tachi.

[chi fan wong]

As in uesugi?

And so the habaki rests directly on the fuchi? Or is there a different kind of fuchi where it's top surface is finished

There doesn't seem to be any seppa as well.

Anyone has more details?

[Curran]

I believe the original poster's question was answered: Yes

The Uesugi Kenshin example being most famous.

I believe there are quite a number of examples in the uchigatana book.

 

Question:

Peter, I thought the sword used by Kenshin was a rather long tachi Ichimonji. Would it be considered uchigatana?

Never mind. I went and got the book. The 3 or 4 color photo examples of this koshirae list them as 'uchigata' yet the swords in them are all described as tachi {Ichimonji, Ichimonji, Nagamitsu, etc...}. So Peter is correct {as nearly always} in saying this is uchigata koshirae. Not tachi koshirae.

 

Aside Question:

Kenhin gave Takeda Shingen a "sword of importance" as a gift later in life. Anyone know what the sword was? If I ever knew, I've forgotten and haven't been able to dig it up this morning.

[chi fan wong]

thanks for the info to all. but i m still trying to figure out what the top surface of the fuchi in such a koshirae looks like. the way normal fuchi looks is relatively unfinished but its covered by the tsuba so it doesnt matter. in this case, it is exposed. and does any kind of seppa come into play here? if so, how, without looking out of place.

[Mark Green]

There are no seppa spacers.

The fittings are recessed into one another, about 4-6cm.

I am sure there are some pictures somewhere with a good view of open pieces.

If you can't find any mail me, and I will take some close pics of mine.

Mark G