To Good To Be True Deal ???

[Icepic]

Hello, Does anybody feel that the Sa-No-Yukihide list on e-bay #370418772220, might be one of those "to good to be true deals" ? Two things that concern me about this sword is that it is signed katana Mei, and the low price; not to mention those unknown origami papers. I was under the impression that Sa-Yukihide katanas went for tens of thousands of dollars.

 

I bought a nice Koto katana with NBTHK papers from this seller before with excellent results and the other swords he has listed are nice, So this is not about Him, only the sword. I believe he is a honest person, after all he does offer a seven day money back inspection period. I would be gratfull for any opions for I know there has been some discussion about Sa-Yukihide before on the NMB.

 

P.S. I don't know how to give a link to the listing or I surely would.

[Grey Doffin]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Japanese-SAMURAI-SWORD-KATANA-SHIRASAYA-YUKIHIDE-/370418772220?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0

He also has a Kiyomaro up for sale. The link above is for the Yukihide.

Grey

[hybridfiat]

If it looks too good to be true it very nearly always is.

Im puzzeled the seller is quite knowledgable about swords and the smiths and I can hardly believe that they would let a sword go for a 10th of its value. Buy it now!? not even a chance of getting a higher price!?

[christianmalterre]

Hello Mark and others,

 

i wonder: 1.-why a blade made by "a" Sa Yukihide would ben offered in public for sale-2.-why a blade attributed to "a" Sa Yukihide would not have NBTHK certification at minimum(and not those junky attribution paper depicted)3.-as far as i do remember of seen a real Sa Yukihide there the prices-at least 15 Years ago begun at 70.000.-Euro minimum.

The Hada is not that,the Yasurime is not that,the Boshi is not that,the Horimono is executed extremely bad!

So what is the problem?

Christian

[Luthor]

might be too good to be true but could also be an alienation of a legal estate. At least all items look to be genuine and well cared.

Why don´t you ask questions like

does anybody know one (or more) of the blades offered?

did a known collector pass away recently?

I really don´t think that the actual seller is a collector but rather a liquidator or comissioned by one which could easily be found out by asking

 

Greets

Lutz H.

[sanjuro]

Too good to be true deal? YES.

First question to ask yourself is why is a blade by Sa Yukihide on ebay? If it were genuine it would be on a Christies auction at least. If it were genuine or even suspected of being genuine, there are about a thousand collectors out there that would have bought it on day one at that price.

 

Nice blade........ but not for this smith.

Lousy horimono....... Not in keeping with a sword of the claimed smith.

 

Papers? Not worth a damn.

 

As Christian says "So whats the problem?"

[Eric H]

For comparison

 

2 JuTo... 82.7 cm and 86.95 cm, Yen 6'950'000 and Yen 11'000'000

 

Eric

[Icepic]

Thanks Folks for clearing that up for me. I have been studying Nihonto long and hard for the past 18 months and have a nice library built up and have three entry level swords with Good Origami. However as a retired machinist my eyes are tired and need plenty of help, which you kind fellows have provided. I have been a serious knife collector for 38 years but have decided to pursue the study of Nihonto in my old age, it helps keep my mind sharp.

 

I guess I have inherited the duty to contact the seller and have a chat with him about this sword before someone makes the mistake that I almost did. I could of had the sword for $5,700. Now I will take that money with me to the Nihon To-ken Hozon Kai in San Francisco next week and see what I can find there. Thanks Again.

[Jacques]

Hi,

 

Detecting a Yukihide gimei based only on the signature is a chimera, because this smith had too often changed his mei. Nevertheless his nakago jiri is not like this one.

[Lee Bray]

I guess I have inherited the duty to contact the seller and have a chat with him about this sword before someone makes the mistake that I almost did.

 

Why?

What is this 'duty' you speak of?

 

If someone buys this sword, it is their own look out.

The seller is not standing over us and threatening to kill a kitten if we don't buy it.

 

He states, "It is signed...."

He doesn't state if he thinks it is genuine or not.

[Brian]

I'm with Lee. Not your duty (or right) to expect the dealer to do anything. Besides the fact that we could always be wrong..people have their own duty to do their homework before spending big bucks.

If you want to tell him your suspicions, go ahead. But I expect you won't get a good reception and probably nothing noted in the auction.

 

Brian

[Icepic]

Sounds good to me guys. I did not like the idea of doing it anyway; Besides I might want to buy another sword from him someday. I sure like the last one I got from him ,and he treated me good too.

P.S. Not to be disrespectful, But I will reserve the right to do whatever I want.

[sanjuro]

Mark

 

Likewise not to be disrespectful, but I dont think anyone was trying to take away your God given right to 'Do whatever you want'. You asked for opinions...... You got opinions. Consider yourself at liberty to go forth and make whatever mistakes you deem appropriate. :D

[Icepic]

Thank You Keith, You are correct, I aked for opinions about a sword and recieved a clear response for which I am gratfull.

Then my focus shifted to attempting to possible helping others; to which I recieved another clear response:" Not To Meddle". Very wise advise indeed, to which I heeded. I should have left it there and not even responed to the "Rights" issue. I apologize.