tsuba ID challenge

[GRC]

Ok I posted this somewhere else, but the membership in both locations is probably different even though there will be some obvious overlap. We'll see... it's my first time trying it.  

 

Up for a challenge?

Does anyone want to hazard a guess as to the attributions for each of these three tsuba?

They each got a specific attribution from different sources (and one of the members here is the source for one of them), but I'm curious to see what you might suggest for each. This isn't an attempt to pass judgement on anyone's "knowledge", it's an attempt to open a discussion and have some fun with it.

Feel free to hazard a guess on any or all of them #1,2,3.

 

[ROKUJURO]

Two NISHIGAKI on the right, an AKASAKA on the left?

What do I win in case I am correct?

[GRC]

Hard to really know if there is a verifiable "correct" on any of these anyway... so who knows 

Well one has a stronger "most likely correct" than the others... I'll explain later.

 

Solid guesses though Jean  (not that I'm saying they are "correct" or not...yet)  

 

[zanilu]

I will be wrong for sure, not my field of study, but since I am not scared to play the fool :

 

#1 Nishigaki

#2 Akasaka

#3 Owari

 

Ready to be corrected. 

 

Luca

 

[Spartancrest]

Well not this one anyway!    https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/188197194660  big money! $47 

[MauroP]

I'm not about to play since I know the book where the first tsuba was taken (but I'm not so sure the attribution proposed by the book is correct indeed). The sekigane which broaden the seppa-dai could suggest that the first tsuba is the oldest... 

[GRC]

@MauroP I'm with you on the attribution... it is one family's recounting of an item that was apparently passed down through multiple generations, so who knows what kind of embellishments were added onto the lore surrounding this piece as the years went by... like grandpa's fishing story where both the fish and the waves keep getting bigger ever time he retells the story  But the claim does line up with that smith's plate texture, so maybe a grain of truth?

 

I also agree that the first one is likely the oldest, and everyone so far seems to be picking up on it as well. 

The third one does appear to have a much smoother surface, and looks to be more black compared to the first two.