A new low in WW2 forgeries

[jason_mazzy]

A siganture in english, stamped on the blade. Ouch

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/rare-WWII-Japanese- ... 255a0ef3a1

[moss]

Jason,

 

Please don't bid on this!

I know that is selfish, but it is all mine.

You find all the good stuff ,you need to share the love around.

Even the stamping is bad.

Ask the seller a few questions and post them.

 

Cheers Moss

[raven2]

Yep,

 

That one is right up there for bad. :D

[paulb]

reminds me of a tanto I saw for sale in the UK. there had been a spate of robberies in his area so the owner used his home engraving kit to put his name across the blade. Certainly made sure no-one who knew anything about blades would want to steal it anyway.

Thankfully it wasn't an important piece but even so it still destroyed any value it may have had.

regrettably such people continue down their own path regardless of the information available to them.

 

Paulb

[jason_mazzy]

Well nothing screams ancestral blade like a signature in English. The greatest Daiymo in history actually invented english....

[Mark Green]

I would say that this ww2 dagger is 'real' enough. The vet stamped it as a war trophy.

most likely?

mark G

[moss]

Mark,

Was this a common occurance with vet's in the U.S?(Stamping)

Can't say I've seen it here.

The kanji on the other side of the blade?

One would suspect a "bring back "produced to fill a demand ,even the aussies got into it with the jeep spring specials.

 

Cheers Moss

[GregD]

Ime gonna go part way with Mark here.I think more a utility knife than a "Kamikazie" dagger.And not stamped as a war trophy but a translation for export.Made By T.Sindoa(the rest i cant make out)

Greg

[moss]

Hello all,

 

$491, someone out there certainly wanted this badly.

 

Cheers Moss

[estcrh]

Hello all,

 

$491, someone out there certainly wanted this badly.

 

Cheers Moss

Moss, I forgot all about this one, and you cant say that the buyer was fooled.

[moss]

Eric and all,

 

In fairness to the seller they actually did answer the questions asked.

Even down to saying the hard to bit read said "Made in Japan"

So I guess this was bought by an "Antique Dealer" who will foist it off somewhere on to someone.

I kindly offered $25 as I thought it woulds be a nice gift for a board member in the auction.

So I will have to keep looking.

 

Cheers Moss

[Curgan]

Surprisingly someone paid almost 500$ for this... didn't they research things a bit before bidding?

[doug e lewis]

IMO - it seems like it might be one of those expensive rose bush pruners.

 

but not "kamikazi" dagger --- what ever that may be. did not know there were special tanto given to those brave, if foolish, kamikazi pilots.

 

and i did not know that vets would stamp their war trophys in that way

 

doug e

[Curgan]

did not know there were special tanto given to those brave, if foolish, kamikazi pilots.

 

Me neither, but what would they need the tanto for? They went full spead and explosives to crash to a steel ship. And even if they got one, how did it survive the crash?

:lol:

[doug e lewis]

a pilot who lucked out and did not fly, maybe?

 

doug e

[John A Stuart]

These type of 'dirks' were issued to pilots of the Shimpu Tokubetsu Kogetai as a parting gift during the ceremony prior to their 'final' mission and represented the "Samurai Spirit' of not accepting defeat even unto death in service to the Emperor. They are also a standard officers dirk. John

[moss]

Gidday John,

 

Are you talking about the 'dirk' featured on ebay?or another.

Just it seems strange to have roman script on a ceremonial gift to somone about to forfeit his life for the Emperor.

I guess stranger things have happened ,so maybe there is something to be learned from this after all.

I felt it had hit a pretty high price even as a wartime souvenir.

Then again to the buyer the price was obviously right.

 

Cheers Moss

[estcrh]

These type of 'dirks' were issued to pilots of the Shimpu Tokubetsu Kogetai as a parting gift during the ceremony prior to their 'final' mission and represented the "Samurai Spirit' of not accepting defeat even unto death in service to the Emperor. They are also a standard officers dirk. John

John, I was told that this tanto was from the ww2 era but I can not find any site with pictures of genuine examples, if you or anyone else would care to comment on it feel free.

http://s831.photobucket.com/albums/zz238/estcrh/ww2%20tanto/

[John A Stuart]

Hi Moss, No, not this specific one, but, in general as re: the previous posts of why they were given to pilots of this group. Rich Stein's site has pics of the type Eric. John

[moss]

Thanks John,

I thought I may have missed something somewhere.

Looks to me like a ready made 'bring back'.

Nice price if you can get it,for the seller that is!

 

Cheers Moss