Mei translation

Markdd · November 19

Hi,

I know the translation but does anyone have a input to th generation of the smith

Thanks Mark

Charlie C · November 19

大永八年 is CE 1528, so probably the 3rd generation of 関兼貞.

Bruce Pennington · November 19

兼貞 (Kanesada)

Mark S. · November 19

So the first kanji is Seki? Don’t believe I have seen that version before?

Bruce Pennington · November 20

These are the two, 3rd and 4th gen, in Sesko's book:

"KANESADA (兼貞), 3rd gen., Eishō (永正, 1504-1521), Mino – “Mino no Kuni-jūnin Uemon no Jō Kanesada” (美濃国住人右衛門尉兼貞), “Izumi no Kami Kanesada” (和泉守兼貞), “Kanesada” (兼貞), “Nōshū-jū Kanesada” (濃州住兼貞), first name Uemon (右衛門), according to tradition a student of the 1st gen. Kanesada (兼定, Oya-Kanesada), suguha mixed with ko-midare, notare mixed with gunome elements which tend to togari, jō-saku

"KANESADA (兼貞), 4th gen., Daiei (大永, 1521-1528), Mino – “Izumi no Kami Fujiwara Kanesada” (和泉守藤原兼貞), “Seki-jū Kanesada saku” (関住兼貞作), “Kanesada” (兼貞), “Izumi no Kami Kanesada saku” (和泉守兼貞作), “Kanesada, Asamagadake ni oite kore o saku” (兼貞於朝熊岳是作, “made by Kanesada at Mt. Asama [Ise province]”), student of No-Sada, he followed his master to Ise where the latter had worked at some time in Yamada (山田) and Asamagatake (朝熊岳), it is said that he moved later to Echigo province, Sue-Seki style, robust sugata and often longer blades, standing-out itame mixed with masame, gunome mixed with chōji, frayed yakigashira, small tobiyaki, ryō-wazamono"

Kiipu · Friday at 10:05 PM

Mal, wake up!

ROKUJURO · Friday at 10:41 PM

Interesting TACHI MEI? How long is the blade?

mecox · Friday at 11:41 PM

Yes signed tachi mei, and yes what is length? Bruce may have it with this mei: 兼貞 (Kanesada) who were students of the 兼定 (Kanesada). Sometimes teacher and student used that shorter "Seki" it seems.

Based on what I can see the following Sesko example is more likely:

"KANESADA (兼貞), 4th gen., Daiei (大永, 1521-1528), Mino – “Izumi no Kami Fujiwara Kanesada” (和泉守藤原兼貞), “Seki-jū Kanesada saku” (関住兼貞作), “Kanesada” (兼貞), “Izumi no Kami Kanesada saku” (和泉守兼貞作), “Kanesada, Asamagadake ni oite kore o saku” (兼貞於朝熊岳是作, “made by Kanesada at Mt. Asama [Ise province]”), student of No-Sada, he followed his master to Ise where the latter had worked at some time in Yamada (山田) and Asamagatake (朝熊岳), it is said that he moved later to Echigo province, Sue-Seki style, robust sugata and often longer blades, standing-out itame mixed with masame, gunome mixed with chōji, frayed yakigashira, small tobiyaki, ryō-wazamono"