WW2 Japanese sword

[Swords]

Hi I’m listing  this sword in the translation topic because i want to confirm it’s the smith as documented 

Also there are 2 Teruhide But not sure which one tradional or arsenal 

I would go with Arsenal because to me it  looks to have dark line in the hamon 

Any way I appreciate opinions 

 

1 Ihara Teruhide

2 Ishido Teruhide

 

[Brian]

There is no such thing as just identifying oil quenched by any "dark line" in the hamon, or even those dark areas in the peaks. The darker areas are a hint, but really it comes down to gut feel and experience. Sometimes you look at a hamon and it just has that "feel" of it being oil quenched. No hard or fast rule, and it has to be taken in conjunction with other factors such as the way it's signed, the look of the hamon, hataraki etc etc.
No easy way to tell from those pics. But if you are only really seeing a nioi based hamon and don't really see any nie or hataraki anywhere and no hada, you can start to think maybe it's oil quenched. Or badly polished.

[Scogg]

Looks like Teruhide to me. See image below (B.) for comparison. 

The images are recognizable as being from a problematic seller.
https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/12191-ebay-seller-showa22/
https://www.warrelics.eu/forum/Japanese-militaria/showa22-again-711022/

Buyer beware...
-Sam

 

[John C]

FYI...

It's being resold here for 2,100 USD.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/187574346198

 

John C.

[Swords]

Scogg Thanks for your help I did buy swords from showa 22 I had a issue with a takayama the tsuka was repaired and painted I got my money back afterwards however I did  buy other swords from him no problem 

 

My question is there are 2 Teruhide in the John slough book where ihara shows ist seat but ishido dosent Are both ist seat or only ihara ?

 

 

Ihara Teruhideor or 

Ishido Teruhide

Brian I wish I knew traditional or arsenal ? big difference 

 

Steve

[Rawa]

Maybe he is listed somewhere. They were 2 different smiths. As Ishido is described as only medium grade gendaito maker dunno if he got any prize.

Only Ihara is noticed in Akihide's list at Tosho Banzuke but his list was made in 1942.

https://www.japaneseswordindex.com/gendai.htm

[Swords]

Yes but how do you know who is who for this sword

 

[Rawa]

18 minutes ago, Swords said:

Yes but how do you know who is who for this sword

 

You need more examples of 2 signs mei as @Scoggposted about Ishido and compare. I had same issue with Emura I bought. He too have many oshigata but it's quite a diference between blade being signed [as quality check] and being made by particular smith. In this cases demand for jigane photos is mandatory.

[Rawa]

There were not 2 but 5 Teruhide smiths? 

https://www.militaria.co.za/nmb/topic/15163-ihara-teruhide-search/

 

[Scogg]

2 hours ago, Swords said:

however I did  buy other swords from him no problem 

I encourage you to read through the threads I shared about this particular seller. Whether or not you had problems with the transaction is beside the issue. 
 

There you will find many stories of putting swords together from bits and pieces to maximize profit, amateur restorations, acid etching blades, and he has even been accused of shill bidding. These kinds of accusations have been going on for quite some time (like more than a decade). 
 

Something you should be aware of if you’re buying from him and reselling. I’d hate for any forum member to be associated with such unethical handling of swords. 

 

I say this with your interests at heart. 
-Sam 
 

 

[Swords]

I  wondered why all his swords always look perfect nice hamon etc Probably not a good idea buying from him 

Thanks for the heads up