sc72 Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 I have 4 questions about a tanto blade that I have coming up. -Is it a metal defect on the hada these areas or "island" areas? -Is it different from kizu strictly speaking? -What kind of hada is it? Maybe itame hada? -near the mekugi-ana hole (on the nagako) there is a repair can you tell me something about it? Is it old, modern, considered a serious defect? https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-7708.3EIJp2 https://tinypic.host/image/IMG-7707.3EIrwx Thanks Quote
Robert S Posted May 16 Report Posted May 16 The area near the mekugi-ana is hard to see at this resolution - you'd probably need to provide some higher resolution photos. Quote
sc72 Posted May 17 Author Report Posted May 17 it could be Chikei or Jifu ...spotted steel in jihada? Quote
sc72 Posted May 20 Author Report Posted May 20 When the tanto arrives I will provide better photos and of the point under habachi, but for now looking at the books I think it could be SHINTETSU or Shingane. What leaves me perplexed is that even if the blade had too many polishes the tanto (unlike the longer blades) it seems to me that they did not have different metals inside but were all made of the same metal ... in that case it would be more difficult to discover a different metal inside, but I can't find any other explanation Quote
Lewis B Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 Doesn't look like Shintetsu to me. That said some smiths did use higher quality, folded and forged steel for the shingane, and this may be what you're seeing. Quote
sc72 Posted May 20 Author Report Posted May 20 thanks for the reply but so you think it's not a defect of the blade? also I bought it for edo but I have the doubt that it's koto Quote
Lewis B Posted May 20 Report Posted May 20 43 minutes ago, sc72 said: could be it koto? Need to see more of the blade. Sugata and nakago shape might provide an answer. Quote
sc72 Posted May 20 Author Report Posted May 20 When it arrives I will post photos, it should arrive within 10 days Quote
sc72 Posted Tuesday at 12:43 PM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 12:43 PM -First of all the habachi is so tight on the blade that it was impossible to remove it or simply move it on the nagako, I partly widened it without ruining the blade but it does not slide (only one cm) because if you see the part towards the nagako it is too tight ... I do not think it hides frauds, but you can see the two "steps" (Mune-machi ha-machi) between nagako and blade. -the blade has a "cutting edge line" that is difficult to guess but in some photos you can see a little. It must be a very polished blade. -The saya (wood) has a final metal part that I do not know if it is recent or antique. - you can see the mekugi-ana restored, I don't know if recently or in the past Let me know your opinion about possible age (edo or koto?) and the activities on the island-shaped metal (both sides of the blade) Quote
sc72 Posted Tuesday at 01:54 PM Author Report Posted Tuesday at 01:54 PM ...those that are white threads on the blade are all hairs and not kizu Quote
lonely panet Posted Tuesday at 08:03 PM Report Posted Tuesday at 08:03 PM Im gonna say its core steel. On a mass sue mino seki tanto 1 Quote
sc72 Posted Wednesday at 04:28 AM Author Report Posted Wednesday at 04:28 AM thanks for your opinion Quote
2devnul Posted Wednesday at 07:04 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:04 AM 10 hours ago, lonely panet said: Im gonna say its core steel. On a mass sue mino seki tanto I agree, looks like blade was polished to the 'ground'/core. As for the age still not sure. We are missing good Sugata (overall blade shape, with Nakago, best without Habaki) pictures. Quote
sabiji Posted Wednesday at 07:45 AM Report Posted Wednesday at 07:45 AM A complete photo of the entire blade and nagako would be essential to evaluate the sugata. It is difficult to draw conclusions from photos of small sections alone. It could be a sue-koto blade. Finding tanto in a reasonably healthy condition is not so easy. If the nakago is ubu, but the blade seems to have lost some material through polishing, there may be difficulties with the habaki and the material thickness of the nakago. For me, the “hada anomalies” are possibly due to unclean or too cold welds, and thus simply rough weld seams. Within the “weld seam islands” there are no structural changes or color differences caused by material with different carbon content, i.e. Shingane. That's why it doesn't look like tsukare to me. The little bit of Nioiguchi that I can recognize looks very Shimari and looks like very compressed Nioi. The hada also looks quite dense. That's not really typical of sue mino, even though it can be common: Kanabo, Sue Mihara, Bungo...you'd have to see more for that. The repair of the nakago ana is not unusual. This is often done with copper or sometimes with iron. It's hard to tell from the photos what kind of material it is. It looks a bit like lead. 1 Quote
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