2devnul Posted February 14, 2024 Report Posted February 14, 2024 Hello, Please help with below Mei (both) translation. Thank you very much! 2 Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 14, 2024 Report Posted February 14, 2024 Umetada Life of 73 years (?) with artisan signature flourish(?) 壽七十三才 + Kao(?) 3 1 Quote
Stephen Posted February 14, 2024 Report Posted February 14, 2024 Not a rule but mei above the Ana are often good swords. Think Yasukuni 2 Quote
2devnul Posted February 14, 2024 Author Report Posted February 14, 2024 Thank you gentlemen. Could it be this smith? Quote
Toryu2020 Posted February 14, 2024 Report Posted February 14, 2024 Curious to see more of the blade... -t Quote
oli Posted February 14, 2024 Report Posted February 14, 2024 UMETADA (梅忠), Chōroku (長禄, 1457-1460), Owari – “Umetada” (梅忠), according to tradition the son of Umetoshi (梅利), it is said that he signed his name also with the characters (埋忠), well, it is also possible that this entry actually just refers to the family name Umetada that had remained after a suriage shortening which cut-off everything but the family name is 梅忠 the correct Kanjis? But it dont look like a Koto Blade. Quote
Stephen Posted February 14, 2024 Report Posted February 14, 2024 2 hours ago, oli said: But it dont look like a Koto Blade. It's not with that patina....thinking gendaito. Quote
Stephen Posted February 14, 2024 Report Posted February 14, 2024 Lot of confusion on my side with first Kanji. My stroke count has it as RI e-swords and Dobree Quote
Bugyotsuji Posted February 15, 2024 Report Posted February 15, 2024 埋める umeru, is to bury. This kanji did not look too good to some folks, (buried fields... = burial fields?) so it is said that Umetada kept the sound, but changed their written name from 埋忠 to 梅忠. Thus there is the possibility that the 'bury' reading is older, unless that blade is a modern construct. PS Although they made a variety of artefacts, (tsuba etc.) I have heard that an actual signed and verified Umetada blade is very rare. Quote
2devnul Posted February 15, 2024 Author Report Posted February 15, 2024 2 hours ago, Bugyotsuji said: PS Although they made a variety of artefacts, (tsuba etc.) I have heard that an actual signed and verified Umetada blade is very rare. Well, assuming it is real Umetada it will be a unicorn indeed. Blade has no papers and is in poor condition (requires polishing). I doubt it is Gimei, as it will be silly to counterfeit smith like that back in the days (not a renowned or known smith). However, it could be later work, a tribute. Quote
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