1kinko Posted September 20, 2023 Report Posted September 20, 2023 This is the signature on a yorai-doshi. Kashu ju Kanewaka- but which one? This one seems to have a kao at the bottom. Has anyone seen this signature before? I’m also mystified by the missing kanji at the top. Any ideas? Quote
uwe Posted September 22, 2023 Report Posted September 22, 2023 What do you mean with “missing kanji at the top”, Darrel? Quote
1kinko Posted September 22, 2023 Author Report Posted September 22, 2023 Other signatures by this school have another kanji below the first, in about the area where the mekugi ana sits. Quote
1kinko Posted September 22, 2023 Author Report Posted September 22, 2023 賀州住兼若 The bottom half of the first kanji is missing on my yore-doshi. There’s an article (The Kashu Kanewaka School) by Anthony Thomas online but no photos. AOI and a few others have pictures of the signatures but none have the final kanji/kao. Thomas reported that there were 3 more generations in the late Edo but no information’s available when Thomas wrote his article. Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted September 23, 2023 Report Posted September 23, 2023 Adding this Kanewaka kao to the Stamps Doc. Am I hearing this is likely late Edo? So, 1800's? Quote
1kinko Posted September 23, 2023 Author Report Posted September 23, 2023 I really don’t know. Whatever it is it isn’t stamped, it’s carved with the same tagane-style as the rest of the signature. Should this be moved to Nihonto? Quote
uwe Posted September 23, 2023 Report Posted September 23, 2023 14 hours ago, 1kinko said: Other signatures by this school have another kanji below the first, in about the area where the mekugi ana sits. I see. In this case, however, it’s signed with “加” instead of “賀”. So nothing is missing! Quote
1kinko Posted September 23, 2023 Author Report Posted September 23, 2023 (edited) None of the other signatures from this school (that I have seen) are missing the bottom half. Is this like a short-hand version? And is this a common abbreviation or an indication of more recent changes to kanji to make them easier to write? Edited September 23, 2023 by 1kinko To clarify my limited knowledge Quote
uwe Posted September 23, 2023 Report Posted September 23, 2023 For example: https://nihonto.com/7-11-14/ Quote
1kinko Posted September 23, 2023 Author Report Posted September 23, 2023 Thanks! At least now I know this particular kanji simplification was used in the early 1600’s. Still wondering about the final kanji/kao. Any ideas? Quote
Bruce Pennington Posted September 24, 2023 Report Posted September 24, 2023 I have no other Kanewaka with kao to compare, but it's definitely a kakihan/kao. Edit: I did find a similar one posted by @Tokaido HERE. The smith was Takahiro and Moriyama-san believed him to be the younger brother of sandai Kanewaka. You can see the similarities. Common practice for family members to slightly modify a family kao: 2 Quote
mecox Posted September 24, 2023 Report Posted September 24, 2023 Darrel, there is a bit about Kanewaka tosho in NMB: 1 Quote
1kinko Posted September 25, 2023 Author Report Posted September 25, 2023 Well, I’m totally impressed, once again NMB members come through. I don’t see any way of identifying this particular smith, but I know at lot more about the school and the nature of signatures. Here’s a pic of the whole blade and kosherae. The bashin and kojira are my work, as both were missing. Quote
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