Ian B3HR2UH Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Did anyone see the four sets of gunto menuki for sale on Jauce recently ? Each of the sets had a mon on the middle of the menuki as you would see on a high quality gunto mount . To my eye the silver mon looked a bit thicker than usual and they didn't have the stippled effect on the cut away areas that you see on the real ones. I decided that they were reproductions but there were 119 bids and someone liked them well enough to pay 41500 yen for them . If they were really left over WW2 stock then it probably shows that some of the Mon, we assume are family Mon, are just something nice that was picked out of a dealers stock. Today I saw four more sets for sale which reinforced my view that they are modern reproductions I put this up as if it isn't bought to light people will soon believe that these are genuine old pieces ( like the mon on the 1944 pattern sword ) Ian Brooks 8 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Hi Ian, thanks for the PSA. Amazed they sold for that much as they were clearly brand new. The renditions of the Mon are quite crude, look at the right two vs originals: 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Simon R Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 Thanks for the heads-up, Ian! Totally agree with you and John regarding the age (or lack thereof) - every example has the same casting flash on the right side of the petal positioned at 'six o'clock' under the mon. Simon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted February 24, 2023 Report Share Posted February 24, 2023 I could be wrong, since I haven't studied mon on menugi closely, but the one I have on a kaigunto completely replaces the center sakura. All these are simply put on top of the center sakura. I'd like to see other legit examples. It doesn't look right the way these were mounted. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian B3HR2UH Posted February 25, 2023 Author Report Share Posted February 25, 2023 Here are a couple that I have Bruce . The naval one shows the stippling that I mentioned . It is also gilded on the lower areas which some of these had when they were new . Ian Brooks 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted March 1, 2023 Report Share Posted March 1, 2023 Some closer pictures from another listing showing how poor quality the whole thing is. 3 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 In addition to Menuki these guys are also producing fairly detailed fakes of rare/special Gunto fittings. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BANGBANGSAN Posted April 24, 2023 Report Share Posted April 24, 2023 These were made in China 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PNSSHOGUN Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 More of these fakes for Naval dagger Menuki. Originals are not very common, so be wary of any you encounter: https://www.ebay.com...d:g:pE0AAOSwjw9l1zO- 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruce Pennington Posted February 24 Report Share Posted February 24 One good clue in checking for fakery is to check where the item is shipping from, in this case: "Located in: he nan , nan yang, China" Very common to see fakes shipping from China. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.