loiner1965 Posted January 30, 2009 Report Posted January 30, 2009 sorry for dramatic introduction but another blade recently aquired but needs a polish badly..please read document which is from a shop in 1995 describing said blade but i cannot see hamon now so must have been better then. can add the following info... kasane at hamachi is 6mm................4.7mm at yokote mihaba at hamachi is 27mm...............20.3mm at yokote so its a nice slender blade its a torii sori shape and is 12mm..........is this common in bizen blades? everything else is as the document..its not in bad shape at all with just a little turn up at the point where i presumed it must have been dropped years ago. question is.......is it worth getting polished and is late 15th cent early 16th as the other documents say.....shin gunto mounts i have for it are not made for the blade so will be sold on to recoup polishing funds.....many thanks for your time and help Quote
Brian Posted January 30, 2009 Report Posted January 30, 2009 Steve, Size! Gotta teach you to resize and crop That's 2.5 megs in 4 pics. Most of which is table. Will try and resize and upload when they download here. Brian Quote
loiner1965 Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Posted January 30, 2009 Steve,Size! Gotta teach you to resize and crop That's 2.5 megs in 4 pics. Most of which is table. Will try and resize and upload when they download here. Brian ......and i actually reduced my canon to lowest settings and resized the pics as i got the 1200 x 1200 pixle warning Quote
Brian Posted January 30, 2009 Report Posted January 30, 2009 Download Irfanview. Free and good for cropping and resizing This waki looks pretty done. I notice it has been sharpened by grinding and that tip is a mess. It might warrant a window by a decent polisher to see what is in there. If the kissaki can be repaired, it might turn out ok, but not worth a professional polish imho. You guys who use the "less professional" polishers who charge only $200 or $400 might have it looking a lot better, but that is a call you have to make. Can't get too much much worse anyways? Brian Quote
leo Posted January 30, 2009 Report Posted January 30, 2009 Hi, looks like a Momoyama or early Shinto blade. Hamon seems gunome w. choji, everything else is obscured. Blade itself seems healthy, but the crucial point is the kissaki. Looks bad from here, but pic is unsufficient to tell exactly. Nakago does´nt look very virginal to me. Sori on a wakizashi must not necessarily tell you where it was made. Regards, Martin Quote
loiner1965 Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Posted January 30, 2009 Hi,looks like a Momoyama or early Shinto blade. Hamon seems gunome w. choji, everything else is obscured. Blade itself seems healthy, but the crucial point is the kissaki. Looks bad from here, but pic is unsufficient to tell exactly. Nakago does´nt look very virginal to me. Sori on a wakizashi must not necessarily tell you where it was made. Regards, Martin its meaty enough but was told its bizen 15th century but its not koshii tori like i thought it might be....just investigating at the moment before i take the plunge with a polisher...not after a national treasure but i do like them to look like they should be rather than what it is now...why do you say its gunome with choji as its suppose to have midare with choji according to the sales receipt from previous owner Quote
Brian Posted January 30, 2009 Report Posted January 30, 2009 Steve, In that condition, gunome and midare aren't too far apart. Midare is just irregular, whereas gunome would be more regular "bumps" Could turn out to be either, or both. Gunome midare..irregular waves. Can't be sure until it is in better polish. As far as sori is concerned, there are guidelines, but no hard and fast rules. Brian Quote
loiner1965 Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Posted January 30, 2009 totally agree brian with all your comments as well as leos...trouble is with blade out of polish and the only useable info is a 13 year old appraisal letter to go i am just stabbing in the dark and hoping more knowlegeble members can thow more light on this piece etc......as with leo comment on shinto period at least we are heading in the right direction Quote
John A Stuart Posted January 30, 2009 Report Posted January 30, 2009 See this example from the school and period. John http://www.ricecracker.com/japanese_swo ... hi/sw2.htm Quote
loiner1965 Posted January 30, 2009 Author Report Posted January 30, 2009 See this example from the school and period. John http://www.ricecracker.com/japanese_swo ... hi/sw2.htm cheers john for the link which i did see earlier as i tried to compare which bizen school it was ith he description i have.....its a shame the blade cannot tell us more and i think a polisher might hav to open a window or give me an appraisal. even though its a run of the mill blade i do not like them in this state Quote
pcfarrar Posted January 31, 2009 Report Posted January 31, 2009 ..is it worth getting polished and is late 15th cent early 16th as the other documents say.....shin gunto mounts i have for it are not made for the blade so will be sold on to recoup polishing funds.....many thanks for your time and help Why do you think the shin-gunto mounts aren't original to the blade? Quote
loiner1965 Posted January 31, 2009 Author Report Posted January 31, 2009 ..is it worth getting polished and is late 15th cent early 16th as the other documents say.....shin gunto mounts i have for it are not made for the blade so will be sold on to recoup polishing funds.....many thanks for your time and help Why do you think the shin-gunto mounts aren't original to the blade? loose fit john ......and the saya is for a katana...just a mismatch as well as its an officers tsuba with a nco saya...when assembled it looks out of place. i think it had shin gunto mounts when surrendered and bought in 1995 but replaced later as the letter describes a rare ashi and the ashi on the saya is standared nco. i put them on ebay with a silly buy it now price and hopes some one wants them..... Item number: 300290530502 if you want to see what they look like but i obmitted measurements but will post on ebay when i go home etc Quote
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