Jean Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 http://www.aoi-art.com/kantei/kantei05.html Who made this sword do you think ? a hint I am not the smith Quote
sabiji Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 Yes, a Hizen-To. Omi Daijo Tadahiro, or maybe Dewa daijo Yukihiro. Quote
Brian Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 By "Niedeki suguha and double hamon with deeper nioikuchi" are they referring to utsuri? Brian Quote
Jean Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Posted July 25, 2008 Yasurime and kurijiri fit Tadahiro, though it is not the best konuka hada I have seen Quote
sabiji Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 though it is not the best konuka hada I have seen That´s why i think Yukihiro, but the Nakago Saki and the Tapering of Nakago do not match with Yukihiro Quote
Jean Posted July 25, 2008 Author Report Posted July 25, 2008 Right Thomas and I answer from the pictures after Darcy answer (I had not seen the hints posted by Tsuruta san) Eithet bad polish or too much polishing for Hizento. From the hints I have just read an hour ago, there is few doubts about the kaji. When I posted the topic, I had not seen the "hints" and would never had gone for Tadahiro Quote
Carlo Giuseppe Tacchini Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 There is a couple generations of Hizen smiths that usually signed Katanamei, but this, and beliving my gut, it looks like Yondai Hizen Tadayoshi EDIT : didn't notice ia a Waki. Katanamei doesn't really matter. Quote
Guest reinhard Posted July 25, 2008 Report Posted July 25, 2008 An o-wakizashi with these measurements, signed and obviously with ubu nakago, can hardly predate Edo-period. One of the very few precise hints we have is "thin kawagane". This is usually pointing towards Hizen-To (among Shin- and ShinShinTo blades). Nakago shape, jiri and yasurime seem to confirm this judgment. Unfortunately the kissaki-section is deformed in shape, poorly polished and won't stand another attempt of restoration. This goes for the rest of the blade, due to "thin kawagane". The present state already allows us glimpses of the shingane here and there. What we should do, IMHO, is trying to imagine, what this sword looked like during better days. reinhard Quote
Ted Tenold Posted July 26, 2008 Report Posted July 26, 2008 Yes, there are indeed some condition issues. The tip has been reduced and pulled back, thus disrupting the continuation of yakiba width from monouchi to boshi we would expect to see. In addition, it disrupts the region of the koshinogi we would normally see the slope of the kaeri cross over reaching to the mune. Here, it is very short of where it should be. The shingane is showing through in places, however there are also areas of what appear to be sumigane which would be consistant with Hizen smiths. Given all the features I'd say... Jean obviously did not make this sword. :-) IMO, Omi Daijo Tadahiro did. Quote
Ted Tenold Posted July 26, 2008 Report Posted July 26, 2008 By "Niedeki suguha and double hamon with deeper nioikuchi" are they referring to utsuri? Brian No, I don't believe he's describing utsuri, or he'd just describe it as such. It reads as though he's describing "nijuba", but not like you'd expect from say Shikkake school where the multiple "hamons" rise out of the habuchi in the same deki, but rather a soft line of nioi in the yakiba *below* the niedeki of the habuchi. Perhaps more like an elongated "yo" floating inside the yakiba. Simply calling it "nijuba", might lead the viewer astray due to the conventional definition it has with other smiths or schools. His description seems intentionally precise by pointing out the different deki and locations. Quote
Goldy Posted July 27, 2008 Report Posted July 27, 2008 Fairly new at this this but I'll have a go. I'd also go with the Hizen deductions so far and hopefully narrow it down. The kaeri dipping slightly towards the edge in the middle (which another generation also did sometimes), the kengata nakago, yasurime migi aragikiri - I'd point to: Omi Daijo Tadahiro Cheers, Craig Quote
Darcy Posted July 30, 2008 Report Posted July 30, 2008 About the hada, I know sometimes when I photograph a sword in the formal style the jihada looks much weaker and poorer than when I do the handheld style and let the light reflect off the blade. It's extremely frustrating when this happens as the beauty of the blade isn't captured well at all. I had a feeling from looking at this blade that the photographs are making the jihada look worse than it is, as I've been in the same boat as Tsuruta-san, saying what great jihada and the photo makes it look like mud. Overall from the grain pattern certainly does not appear to be perfectly healthy anymore as it's lacking the even construction we'd expect. But it probably looks much better in hand than the photo would have it. Quote
Brian Posted July 30, 2008 Report Posted July 30, 2008 Yeah, I was wondering too if the fact that it is a little tired hasn't affected the hada a bit too. We wouldn't be seeing the traditional Hizen hada if it has had some of the outer steel polished down over time. Brian Quote
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