stekemest Posted April 28, 2008 Report Posted April 28, 2008 Hi all, Is it possible to say anything about the age of this blade? Hamon and Hada cannot be seen yet (at least by me), nagasa is 64 cm. Sue-Koto? Thank you all very much. Peter http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben ... 333435.jpg http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben ... 633637.jpg http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben ... 303464.jpg http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben ... 663866.jpg http://foto.arcor-online.net/palb/alben ... 353239.jpg Quote
remzy Posted April 28, 2008 Report Posted April 28, 2008 I cant really say when it was made without making a fool out of myself but the nakago says its suriage, the latest mekugi ana still has drilling burs on it which lead me to beleive this has been mounted as a ww2 sword, perhaps. The kissaki is oddly shaped too, mayhaps it has been (badly) reshaped in the past? Lots of chips and nick on the ha.. that's not good! :| Like you, i cannot see the hada or hamon. Quote
stekemest Posted April 28, 2008 Author Report Posted April 28, 2008 Hi remzy, Thank you for your opinion. I don't really care about the sword's condition, so the nicks and scratches are no problem. I'd just like to know if it possible to date it. I also think it could have been carried in WW2, but the blade itself is certainly older. Peter Quote
Brian Posted April 28, 2008 Report Posted April 28, 2008 I cropped, rotated and resized to make them a bit easier to view, hope this helps someone. Brian Quote
John A Stuart Posted April 28, 2008 Report Posted April 28, 2008 Hi Peter, Can you not see any blade characteristic at all? Without something to go on it is pretty hard to come to even a general attribution. The nakago being suriage gives not much to go on although the patina might indicate towards shinto but even that can be deceiving. John Quote
stekemest Posted April 29, 2008 Author Report Posted April 29, 2008 No, I don't see any characteristics at all. Is it at least possible to put a "time frame" on it ("older than..." or "newer than...")? Thank you, Peter Quote
paulb Posted April 29, 2008 Report Posted April 29, 2008 Peter, Based on shape and nakago alone I think it likely to be late Koto to early Shinto, i.e. 16th to early 17th century. Without seeing more detail of hamon or hada I dont think I would try and tie it down further. rgeards Paul Quote
Guest reinhard Posted April 29, 2008 Report Posted April 29, 2008 The nakago gives the impression of a shortened blade, but the strong fumbari contradicts. The middle mekugi-ana is (very) new. reinhard Quote
remzy Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 Excuse me, but what does "fumbari" means? Edit to add: ah, nevermind i found the meaning Quote
stekemest Posted April 30, 2008 Author Report Posted April 30, 2008 Is there really a strong fumbari? It doesn't seem so to me (but I don't know much about that feature). Does this mean the blade is not shortened, but the shortening just imitated? (shin-shinto then?) The middle mekugi-ana is indeed very new. Could it be WW2? Thanks again, Peter Quote
Brian Posted April 30, 2008 Report Posted April 30, 2008 Peter, My guess is shortened slightly, not greatly. At least a Shinto in my humble guess. That recent extra ana could have been done at any time by someone who remounted the tsuka badly. The lower one is likely the original one (unless it is o-suriage which isn't the impression I get) I don't think you will easily narrow the age down much further in that condition, but likely a few hundred years old imho. Brian Quote
stekemest Posted April 30, 2008 Author Report Posted April 30, 2008 Thank you Brian. I still don't know much about nihonto, so I hope I don't annoy you with my questions. Quote
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