part Cherokee77 Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 Before and after pic. lightly cleaned oiled and cured. Quote
Jean Posted January 4, 2015 Report Posted January 4, 2015 Matthew, please sign all your posts by at least you first name to comply with the Board rules. BTW there is a Tosogu section where I move this topic???? Quote
part Cherokee77 Posted January 4, 2015 Author Report Posted January 4, 2015 Sorry I didn't know what tosogu meant im new...lol yes I will sign my name from now on Daimyo . thanks for your help. Matthew Quote
part Cherokee77 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Posted January 5, 2015 Anybody have any info on this Tsuba? I would love to know Approximately how old it is. thanks Matthew Quote
Barrie B Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 Hi Mathew, Welcome. Tosho Tsuba. Some info can be found here… http://home.earthlink.net/~jggilbert/oldiron.htm Barrie. Quote
part Cherokee77 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Posted January 5, 2015 Does it have any value at all? Not for sale but I would like to know. I know its pretty pitted but from what I read about tosho tsubas they are really old . Quote
Soshin Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 Hi Matt, It looks like a Tosho tsuba in poor condition. What are the measurements including thickness? This important in determining the age and value which I can provide you with. I wrote a article about Tosho (sword smith) tsuba for the JSSUS newsletter a few years ago. A link is included here for my website where the article is located as a PDF. http://www.tsubaotaku.com/#!galleries/component_41229 The link is towards the bottom of the webpage. 1 Quote
part Cherokee77 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Posted January 5, 2015 It is 2 3/4" across and .150 thousands thick which is fudge over 1/8" thick. Thanks Matt Quote
part Cherokee77 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Posted January 5, 2015 I did the metric conversion 6.98 cm across 3.81 mm thick Thanks Matthew Quote
Soshin Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 Hi Matt, From your measurement it is a bit small and likely made for a wakizashi. I would estimate a age range from Azuchi-Momoyama Period to the early Edo Period. This is the late 1500s to early 1600s. I would estimate a retail price of about $125 to $175 USD if I was trying to sell it online or at a show. From the limited photos (better focus helps) it is hard to get a true idea of the condition of the iron surface and if the restoration work was done correctly. Hope you find the information helpful. 1 Quote
part Cherokee77 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Posted January 5, 2015 Yes it came with a wakazashi I bought. thanks so much for info!!!! Matt Quote
Jean Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 Matt, Just call me Jean as other members, my user name is my first name, should my wife hear someone calling me Daimyo she will die laughing. Quote
part Cherokee77 Posted January 5, 2015 Author Report Posted January 5, 2015 Yea I messed up sorry Jean. Matt Quote
Marius Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 3.81 mm thick Matt, thickness at rim or seppa dai? 1 Quote
Soshin Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 Hi Matt, Typically Tosho tsuba have a thicker center (seppa-dai) then rim. This is fairly consistent trait of Tosho tsuba in general. Quote
Rich S Posted January 5, 2015 Report Posted January 5, 2015 Here is the correct link to Jim Gilbert's Tsuba site: http://home.earthlink.net/~jggilbert/tsuba.htm Rich Quote
part Cherokee77 Posted January 6, 2015 Author Report Posted January 6, 2015 3.81 mm thick at the rim Quote
Marius Posted January 6, 2015 Report Posted January 6, 2015 Older tosho tend to be thinner. I would say this is a later Edo, tosho-style tsuba. Quote
Soshin Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 part Cherokee77, on 05 Jan 2015 - 8:15 PM, said: 3.81 mm thick at the rim Hi Matt, When you first posted the measurements they were in English units and I did the unit conversion to metric centimeters and was thinking the thickness was about 3.0 mm at it thickest likely the toward the center being a Tosho tsuba. At 3.81 mm at the rim is a bit thicker then what I was expecting. I would say you likely have a later Tosho style tsuba as Marius states above. The issue of thickness is discussed in my article about Tosho tsuba written for the JSSUS newsletter that is on my website. It the article I have a signed Tosho tsuba around 4 mm in thickness. Quote
MauroP Posted January 7, 2015 Report Posted January 7, 2015 Hi Matt, I have a tsuba with the same sukashi (openwork decoration). I suppose it's a family crest, but I never succeed to find out wich family. My tsuba is 72.6 x 72.1 x 3.1 mm. Quite unusually it has also a small inlay on the ura side (the side facing the blade) representing a triple star, possibly a later added . My guess is early to mid-Edo. Bye, Mauro 1 Quote
part Cherokee77 Posted January 7, 2015 Author Report Posted January 7, 2015 Hey Mauro That is so cool!!! Thank you for posting pictures. Yours looks way better than mine. Lol Matt Quote
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