spigot Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 Just picked up this one yesterday, very excited to have my first nihonto. Gonna need help translating the rest of the inscription. This is all I could make out from a few hours of research. 備前國住長 Made in Bizen no Kuni I'd appreciate any more information on this piece. Many thanks. Quote
1tallsword Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 could you post some clearer upclose pictures of the last couple kanji by the nakago jiri. maybe someone with better eyes than I will tune in, with the limited picture you have the last kanji could be Yuki but thats a long shot with what i can see and make out. Quote
Gunome Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 Hello maybe 備前國住長船藤原源左衛門尉祐定 ? bizen kuni ju osafune fujiwara gensaemonjō sukesada Quote
Nobody Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 備前國住長舩源兵衛尉祐定 - Bizen no kuni ju Osafune Genbei no jo Sukesada Ref. http://www.seiyudo.com/ka-060712.htm Quote
spigot Posted November 4, 2014 Author Report Posted November 4, 2014 Didnt notice the markings on the reverse side of the blade the first time I took the tsuka off but found them today. Looks to be the date mark, and I'll need help translating most of this as well. From a page I read the 3 end kanji mean "a lucky day". Updated photos. Quote
cabowen Posted November 4, 2014 Report Posted November 4, 2014 Eisho Gan Nen Hachi Gatsu Kichi Jitsu 永正元年八月吉日 lucky day, August, First year of Eisho. Quote
spigot Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Posted November 5, 2014 1504 then?!?! My mind is absolutely blown if this sword is that old! I suspected the 2nd character to be 正 "Sho" but thought perhaps taisho? Going down the list of periods on http://www.japaneseswordindex.com/kanji/nengo.htm I seen 永正 "eisho" and thought it looked close but couldn't believe I could have found something that old. Are we sure on this one? My god....... I'll post some pics of the blade & kissaki when I get time to take some. Many Thanks to everyone. -Dustin Quote
spigot Posted November 5, 2014 Author Report Posted November 5, 2014 :lol: Well darn I totally forgot about that. So would a date be forged too? How exactly would one date and appraise a gimei piece then? Just based on the overall characteristics of the blade? Quote
Gunome Posted November 5, 2014 Report Posted November 5, 2014 99% chance of gimei Why gimei ? This smith worked in Eisho, so the nengo match the working period. Quote
Stephen Posted November 5, 2014 Report Posted November 5, 2014 why shoshin? Moriyama san posted a link of shoshin, a polite way of showing. Quote
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