Choshu Hagi query

[kissakai]

Hi

I'd like some help with this tsuba, recently bought from eBay

It was described as Choshu Hagi and from an old (60 years) private collection

Originally bought from a Japanese seller

 

Subject

Birds and snow flakes

 

Size

64 x 60 x 4.3mm

 

I thought it was more like Akasaka from around 1775

I could be a revivalist tsuba but it looks OK showing 'bones'

Does anyone know what the stamp is on the box, sorry it is quite faded but I know what good eyesight some of you have

The box looks quite new so can not be 60 years old

As I didn't pay much for it and I liked so I can cope with bad news

 

 

 

 

Grev UK

[kissakai]

Hi

I realise that the stamp will be virtually impossible to decipher but I'd thought I may have got a reply about the tsuba school/type

Going through my books again I was drawn to Owari but found similar a sukashi (snow flake?) with a ko Shoami example

 

Any guesses?

 

 

Grev UK

[Brian]

Grev,

All I can say is that it isn't a Choshu Hagi tsuba based on the ones I have seen and the one I own. Anything but.

As to what it is, I have no idea as it doesn't have many feaures that stand out, and the plate showing signs of flat sanding/grinding doesn't lead me to Akasaka, but to late Edo generic work.

 

Brian

[Jorgensen]

This might help with the stamp

[kissakai]

Thanks Brian & Jimi san

I tried to improve the image but it just got worse

I'd be surprised if the box went with the tsuba

 

The seller was adamant that it was Choshu hagi and as Brian said this was completely wrong

I'm thinking Owari

I has long shaped 'bones' on the mimi and looks and feels if there is some age to it

 

 

Grev UK

[raven2]

Brian is quite correct. Not even close to Choshu Hagi. Akasaka was my first thought, but Owari certainly is possible. I have attached a picture of a Choshu Hagi tsuba I own (picture was taken by Grey)

[kissakai]

Hi

This is my paperd Choshu Hagi with HTKK papers

So you can see why I discounted this tsuba as Choshu Hagi

I've changed my mind about birds and snow flakes to all birds

So it may be Akasaka or Owari

 

 

 

Grev UK